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Our -- so we -- a lot in the past few days about the issue of a possible nuclear showdown.
With Iran and it will be a campaign issue to be sure.
Over the course of the coming months President Obama blasted GOP critics of his efforts to reach a diplomatic solution to this crisis.
With this -- jab for some of the Republicans who would like to have his job.
That's my track work.
Now what's said on the campaign trail.
You know those folks don't have a lot of responsibilities.
-- I commander in chief.
And when it when I see that casual moments.
With -- which some of these folks talk about war.
I'm reminded of it costs.
Involved in war.
I think -- Gordon former Defense Department spokesman for secretary's Donald Rumsfeld and -- good to have you with us -- take a good morning to you.
Thanks Martha thanks for -- on the Saturday what your reaction to what the president said there.
I think it just shows weakness.
I think the only thing Jiri regime understands -- pressure and lots of it.
These sanctions have been good debt Covert actions have been good -- weakened Iran.
I think short of the game changer and by that I mean a credible threat of massive military strikes on Iran.
I think what you're gonna see is in Iran has nuclear weapons within a year or -- and a shorter period of time.
Act is -- to -- you say really the best course of action you believe is regime change in Iraq.
And everybody knows we had an opportunity.
And president has many reasons that he -- -- for why he thought that was not the right time in 2009.
It was an opportunity to urge that a long.
How would you how would you urge -- along at this point.
Well I think we need to pick up where we should've been in 2009 during the Green revolution we had.
Hundreds thousands -- radiance that wanted democracy remember when the girl -- was killed.
I think we should have fully back the op system then.
And I think right now we should be helping to organize them and to train them.
And two I give them secure communications I think that the best chance to stop Iran from getting a nuclear -- is regime change.
Because even if we had airstrikes.
There's no guarantee that's gonna stop the program it'll delay it by a couple years but it -- Not that you also talk about Iran's -- very concerned about it by Iran's relationship.
With some countries in South America and you feel.
According to what you said -- Antony earlier this morning that that it's possible we could have another Cuban missile crisis situation explain that.
How silly president Ahmadinejad has traveled for the region a couple times.
He was just in Venezuela he was in Bolivia recently and that last week -- -- with a couple Bolivian senators here in Washington.
And they had told me there's about a hundred Revolutionary Guards Iranian Revolutionary Guards part of the puts -- -- are actually training.
People in Bolivia at a at all the school -- -- -- is the anti US bloc there so I think if Iran should develop a nuclear weapon.
They could certainly tried to introduced -- -- -- Venezuela or Bolivia because.
Both Chavez is very anti US -- Rawls is in Bolivia is very anti US so we could have really Cuban missile crisis redux of the region and that really concerns me.
But you know I don't have to tell you -- that the president has spoke yesterday at that news conference about.
War fatigue and about what it really means to commit our troops overseas.
And there is clearly.
-- -- and exhaustion.
With the efforts that have been under way.
It the American people may not -- have -- have the well for what you're talking about.
Well I think when it comes down to is a choice whether we want to act before Iran -- a nuclear weapon or after.
And I think -- if we try to act after it's gonna be too late I think you could see another type of the Holocaust with Israel unfortunately.
And also as a threat not only to Israel but to the Arab countries -- Saudi Arabia is a staunch foe of Iran.
Most of our energy in the world comes from Middle East Iran is also a threat to Europe.
In a threat to our own country looking at pictures of some of facilities that we know about.
That are underway in Iran JD Gordon very good to speak with you today sir thank you very much for coming on.
Thanks Martha appreciate have -- on show.
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