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    Inside the hunt, capture of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed

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Reason late breaking of formation on -- 9/11 terror suspects are -- intelligence correspondent Catherine Herridge.

Tells us we can see five key suspects now held at Guantanamo Bay formally charged by the middle.

I've made it's been a long road to this point -- and it.

As we wait for justice for the nearly 3000 people killed on 9/11 we're learning more about the self proclaimed mastermind.

Of the attacks Khalid Sheikh Mohamed you're seeing him on the screen is the most high value terror suspect in custody.

Now granny.

Coming out any of blockbuster.

Of a -- Josh Meyer was nominated for Pulitzer Prize for his reporting on al-Qaeda for the Los Angeles Times.

He's the co author of the hunt for KSM inside the pursuit and take down.

The real 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohamed enacted this year by the way is also with -- he's.

Former Port Authority Asian on the FBI's joint terrorism task force.

He helped track down KF seven were we're glad to have you both here Josh is you -- our intro you when you heard an iron georgians say.

We often referred to KS and as a self proclaimed masterminds.

You call him the -- 9/11 mastermind why.

Right.

Face -- well I think that the public.

Perception and often misperception is that Osama bin Laden was the mastermind behind 9/11.

And the basic outline of -- -- involvements known but I think that the public doesn't know like 99% of the story.

About how okay is and conceived of the plot brought -- -- Qaeda and bin Laden.

Orchestrated it and basically sought through from conception took it to fruition.

And all that startling details of what happened in between and how the people chasing him.

Looked for him for ten years and and ultimately caught him.

And Josh why is that -- why why is it that we still.

Don't know why this guy did this knew what what's going on.

Well you should ask the US government that that's a very good question.

You know my colleague -- -- Terry McDermott spent about ten years.

Researching this book and it is.

It's amazing how much Steve Hill has not come out a lot of that's because the trial hasn't started yet a lot of it's because case some was in CIA custody in a black.

Series a black prison sites for a -- time and a lot of the truth hopefully we'll come out in the trial but a lot of but may not because.

The way the military commissions are set up it may just be a straight up and down prosecution without a lot of the details coming out.

Let me ask that and Matthew little bit about villages six in August not because you were able to actually be and -- -- -- team that was tracking some of these.

These bad guys post the first bombing of the World Trade Center and early 1990s.

Why was it's so difficult to track them down and and what obstacles did you experience along the way.

Good morning -- thank you for having -- on on on the set today.

It was it was very difficult at first.

The network.

To try to get people on board to understand the threat of the new threat of radical fundamentalism.

There's very difficult to get people to get on board.

And why we had road blocks we have roadblocks along the way from from from our our organization as well as as as a government.

And we know we tried to get up.

Approval to do a number of of different operations that we tried to get foreign nations to give us assistance but we -- want to ruffle any feathers so is there is very difficult in the early days.

There are -- are you saying it was difficult because add add the roadblocks that our government put in front of our own people.

To try to get these guys.

Well it was you know and in the early days you know people didn't.

On some levels people didn't didn't play well together.

Different government agencies I mean I had.

I had no very little problems when I was in the field when I was overseas.

I dealt very very easily with other government agencies and where I was able to accomplish a lot.

In what we and we needed to do.

My partner and I had had developed a system of operation which which gave us.

And ease of contact with with other people we've built friendships we built it -- -- and Hanks.

Acting now hot.

I believe that it has gotten better but as you well know I I I retired in 2000 just prior to 9/11.

I believe it is better now I believe -- government agencies understand the importance of what -- what jobs we do out there in the field.

We hope so Josh -- -- did the whole goal of talking more about this learning more about this is that would prevent something from this.

Like this from happening again -- you said you know so my question -- might be a more appropriate for the government and I'm curious by the government here I was the first question I -- -- -- about.

-- -- -- -- -- Load up some weather some of the the problems and and obstacles that were thrown in the way of the guys chasing KSM men and women chasing KSM.

From 93 to 2001 and then three to 2003.

Whether some of those roadblocks may have been cleared away.

And I think the answer would be that there's still a lot of problems between the way the FBI the CIA work particularly overseas -- can tell you more about that at least.

From the way it was before nine elevenths but there's just a lot of problems with -- other foreign governments to with the Pakistani government for instance and other governments in the Middle East.

In terms of not letting our.

You know men and women who were doing counterterrorism over there do their job.

-- Pakistan we have problems -- keeps on coming up again and again as we're having this conversation we look for to have to put back more to talk more about it again the book the hunt for KS and I will be looking for that went thank you both for joining us you're welcome.