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Say thank you and he certainly -- and -- continued to fight for justice for.
We're going to make sure that -- -- mother and father and family and of course all the people interest in this case have their questions answered so we are committed to.
To giving them those answers what we have still finish our investigation and then decide in what forum.
-- -- -- You heard their first from the father -- on -- a young man who was killed last week by and member of a neighborhood watch group.
And also the special prosecutor now -- to look into that case let's talk about it began with our panel.
Charles -- start with you I mean this is a really tough discussion to have and there's been some very heated rhetoric already.
There has been in these they've done in the absence of evidence we don't know this all the facts on the story we know some of that.
But the ones that we don't go up quite crucial we know for example that Jordan Zimmermann the alleged shooter was following Leon lynch came on -- We Ellison -- a later hopefully and there was a fight in one eyewitness who is now spoken in public who says he was on the scene.
Says it at that point -- -- was on top.
Zimmerman and then and then hitting him.
Zimmerman who -- says that he had his nose broken and injuries in the back of his head down and -- that some and he wouldn't say are you suspect.
Because you if it weren't so because it can be easily check.
So we know that he was one guy was being followed and we hear that at another point he was on top and he was hitting Zimmerman.
The question is what happened in between.
Had Zimmerman who retired to his car and turned around -- was he still in pursuit and I think.
Everything hinges on that and until we know it we don't know.
How blame where these Zimmerman is to be on this issue though clearly he started all -- -- -- the track came.
Following a young man who at the time from all the evidence -- and engage in anything.
Steve I wanna play a -- today from congressman Hank Johnson out of Georgia.
And they get your reaction here's the sound from today.
In and -- GC.
Walking while black.
In a gated community and.
When there is still so much unknown Steve -- how much does language like that complicate the situation.
Well I would argue it's not helpful I mean I think the first and most obvious tragedy.
Of the situation is that true -- is no longer here for whatever reason I agree with Charles you so much that we don't know it's hard to leap to conclusions.
The second tragedy of this is that political partisans on both sides.
Have tried to exploit the first tragedy for their own purposes and it.
None of the facts as we knew them two weeks ago.
Seemed to have held up I mean it's.
Not the case that trade on margin was as Angelica some of his advocates suggested it's also not the case.
And George Zimmermann was the way that he was portrayed in the initial reports.
Having said all that.
If it is clear that George Zimmermann was following for -- -- he its -- seven and on and on 911 call.
And he appeared to continued to do so even after the police had advised him to stop it's also clear that he had a history.
I'm doing this that he was overzealous.
In his neighborhood watch duties which seems self assigned.
So if that were the case and if your trade on -- I find it hard to believe that you wouldn't want to confront somebody who's been -- you in that manner.
And lands that should this even be a political situation at this point -- -- a lot of politicians will say you know this is my job when something happens they're questionable circumstances there are unknowns I can bring up public voice to it many of them have said.
They want to be the voice for this young man.
Is at the proper forum though.
Plumbing I think you can see arguments to some extent on both sides you can say that the media attention perhaps will.
It's -- and in a greater her sense of urgency to the investigation that they're gonna you know do a better job and certainly the police departments and has come under some criticism that perhaps.
In the -- we'll turn out to be warranted or at least it's it's.
A good thing -- these questions are being asked but I do think that when you have.
So much media attention particularly in a case where there's you know this is it's going to be a legal matter we don't know most of the -- -- we haven't known as to the eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable where we're talking about certain things that anonymous eyewitnesses have said.
If it's just difficult to get to the truth -- all of that is happening and I do you think it's unfortunate when politicians.
Weigh in on matters that really really -- should be decided in courts in in the legal system.
Then it will take some time to get through that as the special prosecutor wades through it Charles is there a way to calm the rhetoric -- have a discussion about this in a way that.
-- is say you know as calm as possible at this point.
I think the best way to do that is true special prosecutor to proceed as quickly she can't so we know the facts I think.
If we all agree on the facts and we know what they are just to the best of her ability to Marshal them.
I think they'll be a lot less.
Argument about who's at fault how much at fault what ought to be done should he be arrested or -- it -- We simply don't know and until that happens.
To speculation -- feed the more extreme elements on either side.
You do flinging accusations that has yet are not based on what we know.
-- final words you know I'm not as optimistic as Charles I think we even when we know.
More of the fact said it will be the case that that partisans on both sides will continue to try to.
Make their arguments in a political fashion because they've been making them for so long they're invested in them.
They'll continue to make them.
Our panel thank you very much that's.
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