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You need a little joy in your life our next guest says that no matter what you're facing you can be happy and she knows because she's been through it.
Kay Warren is the co-founder of Saddleback Church in Southern California -- -- -- -- with her -- pastor Rick -- She is a brand new book out called choose -- good morning to -- thinks that I love this topic because I think everyone can relate to it.
You share your personal struggles your personal pain.
In this book and people would look at your life and they -- why the heck can -- war and not feel joy every day she wakes up -- -- And that's the assumption that if you have you know good married you've got you know we lever we earn our church -- -- -- -- that -- have.
That should make everything okay and it's so much more than that it's it's not the extra house.
If it's if it's just the external then -- have is only few people that are going to be able to experience joy.
But if it's more than the external and that means it's available for every back to obviously -- internal for you is your faith.
The false external -- the five piece that you outline in the book you start with people.
Yeah -- -- -- people what do you mean by well you know our hopes for -- are pretty fragile to Begin with and if we put our hopes for joy in something it's even more fragile.
And we're gonna be disappointed people even those that -- you are gonna let you down they disappoint you people can die people can.
Believe and if if all of my joy is based on the relationship of that relationship changes enjoys -- Places I'll be -- possessions -- Position what you mean by that well you know every -- every organization has a hierarchy and if you like where you are in that hierarchy.
Or that school that club or whatever if you like for you -- you know you can feel pretty good.
But then you start thinking oh I'd really be happier if I had that position in this company or the eastern looking over your shoulder seeing who's coming up behind you trying to knock you -- your perch.
Well so then happiness goes right -- the wind up -- that changes and the fifth one -- person.
Out and now you also do this interesting analogy in the book.
Where you you dissect people's personalities by Winnie to -- And and you use the characters you have read a -- which is a laid back person Tigger is is what optimistic let -- down the chance to fancy fun fun fun fun fun an extrovert who suck all the air out of her room when they -- -- yeah.
Yours the pessimists.
The rabbit is the goal oriented one get stuff came up -- this watching -- go with your kids and you saying your marriage you are new York and Rick Warren.
Is -- -- can you believe it and he is he is it too -- to the Max Tigger on steroids so the opposites in your relationship attractive here initially.
That then opposites kind of attack his -- -- so even though we've had a really great marriage -- had to work hard at it because our personalities are so.
Different to what is the message for the reader of this book when they figure out who they are which -- well.
That you can't hide behind to personality you know you wouldn't you might assume that the -- just naturally have an entree into joy well not necessarily.
Tiggers don't know what to do some -- and they hit the wall and they're so used to depending on the personality than their -- lost.
A rabbit can find more joy in getting stuff done instead of what really matters.
Several struggle finding it because it doesn't come naturally and then when he to put a kind of like -- on a -- but he's all worked up about anything anyway.
-- -- any kind of cynical.
Michael for the weekend is to be more like we need to put that I.
-- rabbits come but it's it's such a great -- and I think it's so it's gonna be so effective for some people's lives choose joined by Kay Warren.
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