Apple forced to hire 'economically disadvantaged'
Did government cross the line?
- Duration 8:32
- Date Apr 7, 2012
Did government cross the line?
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The government not telling businesses who they can and can't hire some democratic lawmakers in Texas.
Are now giving apple an ultimatum if the company want to tax break and has to hire workers were quote.
Is that crossing the line.
While everyone I'm Cheryl -- look at the cash NN.
Our captain and -- this week we've got Wayne Rogers Jonathan Hoenig Tracy -- John late -- Also joining us this -- Fox News contributor Sally -- so.
What about all of you and tries to start with -- -- -- the government ever tell private companies that make panic and -- government can't tell private companies to do -- anything -- and I'm sure.
Apple in CEO Tim Cook are actually giggling in dime -- ipads as they listen to this because they've created a company.
That's well the best in the world not because of what the government had to say to them and -- and for the government actually think they could select employees.
Is just is laughable well the way they're being offered big bucks apple is a good Austin, Texas -- -- to basically -- at 80% tax rebate.
Over ten years that's it that's a huge -- -- change.
Well I think what you let the -- the feds and the you know they're gonna dictate to you what they want do that except apple I mean if you get the tax breaks and of people giving of the tax breaks are you gonna have to do something to -- out of you know you gonna -- you're not gonna throw -- that they have.
Bath water with the baby are you gonna have to accept it and not do -- what they ought to do is say hey we don't need any of that we're gonna go down there because it's a good economic -- We're going to hire whoever we want to hire that would go to work the way we want to work.
Led away in here and in this is something ideologically.
Weird I find that the government.
Or somebody in the government knows.
Who is disadvantaged and who -- -- it and can dictate to you.
-- disadvantage means that's the part that's bad.
And Sally the precedent I think could be a little bit concerning for some American companies that may be.
Want to open up a new plant say in in Delaware or remain.
But they're told you have to -- -- certain group of people are these people and specifically it.
In these terms.
Back then it happened Sunday.
Well I also think -- the other troubling precedent is actually these giant tax breaks.
-- special tax breaks that are given to out of state corporations try and lower their business that puts the minute advantage vis a vis.
Local businesses and and I think you know that the -- exactly.
Apple is playing techs this year they can go to Arizona they can move jobs overseas they're playing Texas.
And all Texas is saying is we want to return on our investment because clearly they're basically saying.
What I'm gonna get any tax benefit from apple being here.
At the very least they can invest in the local economy and in local employees who need jobs -- just simple.
Just make -- one of the things I've found that that it was that this is Austin, Texas that's -- country -- -- probably interpret subject.
But at the same time I mean look they're going to be bring -- it's apple they're -- -- be bringing in jobs it's it's it's pristine for the city of Austin.
Yeah it is he's -- this is the negotiation -- Wayne is saying is exactly right.
Look -- the mayor of Austin, Texas and how wanna tell apple look you come here I'm gonna give you huge tax breaks.
I had it right if they agreed to dictate somehow to them who -- in the harbor calls I am now an investor with taxpayer money in this this is all about negotiators want the government has not.
It is all about Maroney and -- -- let's not -- -- good -- -- Any of Java let let Doug let me read his plate bigger -- is -- and had a budget of three years these -- can't I don't want incorporate.
But if you wanna dance with them and you -- -- take -- tax breaks.
They -- right to tell you what to do.
John offense may have no they have no right to give the tax for the tech break they're given John Marshall work by everyone else who don't get that that -- -- that.
In a matter Margaret Warner and also whether it.
Uphill so whether it's apple whether it's big oil whether it's the Chicago Mercantile Exchange like what happened here in Illinois or disadvantaged people this is.
Truly -- and -- the government picking winners and losers.
Threat immoral it's really hit it it's an assault sure I'm people's mind and I.
Apple's mind -- -- to be the biggest company in the world by -- any extent to work there in the second half record.
-- -- -- Insult apple apple is asking for the that's right this is the government doing anything this is apple basically holding government isn't going if I -- Will put the jobs overseas -- -- -- treat -- -- -- the government offering them that government has no role in offering special tax breaks.
If anyone I tell you it doesn't see Al trying exactly why Terry -- and our health.
It doesn't -- Apple -- let apple go somewhere -- then and they -- and they will.
Apple doesn't need these tax breaks but you know what it's human nature it's capitalism and it's making the most of my -- -- dollar to get me the best deal they're doing the right thing.
Yeah ocean that the state is coming back and saying you gotta hire certain amount of people only from this group -- not from this group that's crazy it is absolutely crazy.
They should do the right thing and turn the whole thing down -- they were common we'll let me just think it breaks and we're gonna -- great things reinstate -- but Wayne I mean that at that that matters a question here was.
Is -- right for our government to dictate to a private company.
They they can't it cannot -- The the the arrogance of the government and also of all of the people who work -- in the sense that they could decide who is -- game is disadvantaged.
How they go to decide who is economically disadvantaged it also he wasn't sure what it is somehow let me finish someone it -- that someone is -- vantage.
But this thing disadvantage.
Oh it's in sunny you can't let the government get back in it and I don't really -- running a country in a free economy about people who didn't bargain for their adopted bargain for -- -- what.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Does Austin really need apple that badly I mean we're we're here we're arguing about whether -- -- -- government should be making this type -- offered -- -- need to make the -- -- Well they're making an offer and a what are you saying and and yes they did always use apple is well the greatest companies in the history of the world's we have also -- -- apple.
-- what everybody saying -- job is and it's but it's true artist wrote an article for Fox Business -- -- about 270 buyout of the biggest companies the United States now I pay a seventy.
Per cent tax -- While they are paying a third of what an LLC pays a New York City is because they have the ability to.
It to bite off crooked politicians.
Who are giving these tax breaks to these companies that -- -- on candidate you know.
-- -- And got a call not to look -- have to go to -- there's not content to get to that side of it but Donovan at the same time.
You're making the argument here the government doesn't have the right but but these communities could use.
Big companies to comment I -- -- -- pulled isn't it hard not -- bed.
-- let me finish now it isn't fair though for the does have the -- -- -- economic boost to any city that can get a company like apple in its.
-- Well I don't I disagree sure I don't picket the boost to anyone to give them a job that they're not deserving fueling economic affirmative action and action.
-- -- -- People is -- -- -- you people's own self esteem to know well I didn't get this job because they deserved it.
I got to get somebody down at City Hall or Washington whoever pulled the string in my favor -- seven touches people's whole it's sensible worth of value of actually contributed to a company to -- they got.
I don't you know I just think all the people out there right now -- -- unemployed which would be the kind of people covered by the sort of deal.
Probably and should feel pretty darn offended by what you just said what they're simply saying is that for instance apple shouldn't come in.
And coach people who are already working at other tech companies like Dell but instead actually help -- -- don't know -- vanished.
Actually boost to the employment market in the city if they're gonna come in they should create.
Jobs in the city and it's giving them the tax benefits and -- By the lack of -- I report -- -- don't work well I government know who is technologically advanced not to work.
In the confines of -- -- and actually.
I won't let you tell me just somebody's unemployed there on the list then did it -- not facing a -- what are they hire these are all they're saying they're sending they're seeing these the kinds of people who meet the criteria apple still has to go through the process and actually deciding who then why are they saying I don't like any of them and -- I don't watch a lot of them once they even got a lot of them -- -- what they shouldn't get the tax.
Give away from the tax is an offered Sally and -- get into the -- -- all right we're gonna ever.