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-- love that we got one for you today Kelly court is back in session on the docket today a real life Amityville horror.
As a couple from New Jersey claims they were forced out of their home by supernatural forces now they're suing their landlord to get out of their lease.
This couple -- having a young children says it's strange things started happening immediately after they moved it.
Lights switching on and off and rooms in which nobody wants closed flying out of the closets.
At first they tried to explain each one away but then one by one.
Things started happening in one night they were in bed watching TV.
Three times in the -- And that's saying that that I -- -- -- them as soon wells in the event three times when you're sitting down over here in the bed.
-- should cover this season people out of my hands.
Well some experts are on their side listened -- that's.
Their sense of what their experience and I -- a 110% I believe exactly what they're saying.
That was the expert that was the ghost expert.
That was enough for the couple the high tail it to a motel about a week into the rental.
Fearing that the house is subjected to some sort of demonic possession they -- out of the least the landlord says you just don't -- -- pay.
So Howell resolve joining me now defense attorney a former prosecutor Joey Jackson and Kimberly Guilfoyle who is the co host of the five and also a former -- One of this case -- I love I love that we have evidence we have more than we're gonna play and we also have an expert witness is joining us momentarily -- I wanna start with you.
They say they come home and find their clothes and towels ejected from the closets and all over the floors doors -- creek open and slam closed.
An unoccupied areas of the house.
It is not unprecedented.
At least in New York State their New Jersey for a court to declare.
Eric house legally -- did -- There -- there's actually long on this but it's nice that they they got two options call merry -- -- called ghost busters.
What is posted you you know they have little kids.
They've tried to stay there it's actually costing them more many.
To now have be out the money for the rental and now they're staying in a hotel and they can say in fact under the law that this is also a violation of breach of the warranty.
Happened ability at the house is not habitable that they should be refunded there.
Deposit because it amounts to -- constructive addiction and they're unable to live in the premises right.
But -- -- landlord has a very different story now he doesn't live next door but his practice he's a doctor I think.
Is right next door.
And he says this is all about -- a -- Why you think cell -- I mean listen I have to be very careful about what I say because I don't want demons coming to visit me at night -- Mike that's.
But I think I'll just say in I'll say this like this is very implausible they are creative ways in which to breach a lease and to get out of what your responsibilities -- this is by far and away the most creative that I'd seen now you mentioned that there is capable of dealing with haunted houses we are far and away from getting to that point.
The point is is -- scientifically acceptable way to explain that houses on it is what they're saying even credible believable I mean the point is is that yes indeed there may -- some sounds and noises in the houses but there'll or they are -- Arab explanations as to that.
And that alternative explanation I highly doubt would be -- -- Right is he claims they have money problems and they just a -- paid at least now we have an expert they hired an expert we saw little bit up we have an expert here with us this chip Cosby.
He's a medium and psychic he specializes in house hunting -- the author of growing up psychic.
He's with us by phone chip thank you very much for being here going to be here you read the facts on this case is it possible do you believe it's possible that this particular house is haunted.
Absolutely and part of the thing that I -- to be immediately was that not just of -- -- is that they've had a -- command.
And that others about the have validated the family's experience about everybody call -- -- Right and and this is one example that they claim has been caught on tape.
We're lights suddenly when I think it is another part of the house where nobody was watch this.
-- at my house.
The lights suddenly goes -- chip is that acting.
Or could that really be a ghost.
I think it happened to many times -- say that it could be acting.
You think it could be acting you know I don't think it could be goddamn thing I don't think it is but I've seen things like that happens so many times.
Because there are a lot of doubters out there -- yes but you're telling us it really happens.
I think what my -- and have a hands but lot of other people.
-- -- one of those doubters may I ask you hit a few questions go ahead -- thirty seconds a heartbreak we're gonna continued on as a number one -- have you ever testify before as to these theories -- a court of law.
What you have to do it now I'm not asking you why the question is have you -- at the Y okay.
Is there scientifically acceptable.
Is -- consensus in the scientific a paranormal community to explain this interpret -- god.
That's I have -- back yeah.
-- -- -- Hope there'd just be a good sport as you know he's not really an -- but let's get -- -- get her chance -- the -- I don't know yet.
So Joey clearly has his doubts and suggests the scientific community does as well Kimberly do you have any questions for chip -- mediums like yeah I did it why why did you go through some of the things that you actually see that he's witness stand haunted -- that -- similar to what these people experience.
-- I have seen actual things fly around -- I've actually seen.
I've seen things.
Appear and disappear from from one place to another.
Heard voices that were recorded that worked for -- with the audible -- Chip let me ask you question the New Jersey paranormal investigators -- old bridge say.
This house is the site of an active or intelligent haunting one level above average -- residual haunting what does that mean.
Residual -- it's like an echo it's like energy -- just left there are -- out of plays like an endless -- tape at various times intelligent calling means.
Whatever is there is able to communicate and actively interact with the environment.
-- boy all right chip thank you very much for being an up panel I wanna ask you this because here that they.
-- and tells objected doors creaking open bank light switch on and off footsteps can be heard unintelligible whispering the muffled -- -- something seven feet below their feet.
I ask you this -- you don't believe you say it's nonsense roll the tape again of what the with a woman with a light -- again.
-- my house.
Ballgame ballgame with a jury.
With the jury yeah.
Ball game with a jury it seems like somebody might in the background that just last not a -- book and this is far from credible to me.
Again there may be some extra forces out they have an extraterrestrial that I don't want to upset.
But at the same time I think that this is a -- direct furthermore what about the past history there with three prior families there that they just Begin to get.
Wanted this particular family all about that Kimberly -- the best act on that his behalf because there's a prior -- that would really help them but nevertheless there is case fondness -- at that 1991 is in New York case involving assisted in the purchase based on net.
I think they had at you know duty to disclose.
That is -- deep -- TC given the money back and I think they're being cheap they're spending more than that -- -- At a hotel and this happened to me.
At the -- -- -- -- -- and I had to check out how about that allowance in this way I was like this this is from a -- Teresa she says FYI the lights in the -- and house have heat sensors.
-- to turn off the ball when it reaches a certain temperature on the ball when it reaches a different temperature which means the ghost is the government imposed sensors on your new lighting -- Got to -- -- and I think you'll get -- over the exactly well.
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