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Coal War Shapes 2012 Elections

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    Chris Stirewalt, Bill Maloney and Fred Barnes discuss 2012 energy debate

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And that is a new radio -- being played it carbon intensive congressional districts across apple -- -- As by the conservative group American crossroads.

-- targeting Democrats for president Obama's EPA rules that they say including the head of the heavily democratic United Mine Workers is killing.

The coal industry so could these new regulations actually have an effect on the 2012 elections.

Let's talk about that and let's talk about that with Fred Barnes who you know and love Internet you -- on the Twitter and we are always happy to have you with us thank you Fred was delayed we should point out ahead because the space shuttle is flying through town and people have totally lost their senses as they -- their cars over to the side of the road.

And bill Maloney bill Maloney is from West Virginia.

You're in Washington DC today talking to people probably don't you go back with little money.

Maybe about that the bill -- -- former natural gas driller you're from West Virginia Republicans seeking the governorship.

The great state of West Virginia welcome.

Hey -- to be here classrooms.

Okay so.

The rules that we're talking about our -- essentially two sets of regulations one.

That tightened down on the -- -- coal fired power plants were allowed to put out Republicans denounced it immediately as.

Cap and trade global warming -- by another means.

And they were just as they were getting into high production on that just as -- the red team was the administration -- along with a new set of regulations that essentially said.

It will not be feasible to build new coal fired power plants in the future.

Are you mister Maloney able to use this against democratic incumbent West Virginia Earl ray -- quality work.

We called on him too soon EPA over -- new engagement findings for carbon dioxide emissions and -- don't -- last Monday -- also he joined another action cardinals team actually -- joint last night right so we're acting like we're fighting back if he.

Fight the administration as bad as he -- What I have to say.

We could do some good that we need to fight that Washington I'm not voting for Barack Obama wouldn't take a -- I mean he's trying to kill our coal industry.

Our nation should be energy independent we've got huge resource in West Virginia we're -- get government out when I got to fight back mr.

Obama.

And -- I would of course encourage you to jump into the conversation here at any time by and right now they hit it.

-- I immediately got him back I think the whole issue is one that.

Could hurt.

The Barack Obama the very greatly look the west -- already lost to him it's become a Republican state presidential -- winning.

So well -- look it's.

Well over the West Virginia is not gonna go for -- -- this year.

That's accurately and so the question is what the what the effect will be in in the Western Pennsylvania eastern Ohio southern Illinois I -- is not much coal mining left and -- In Indiana.

There but -- the Martin and Wilmington is more than I thought.

And gone and there's some and obviously in eastern Kentucky but Kentucky is another state like West Virginia that will be Republican this year.

When asked about marginally local state to going to be close Pennsylvania and Ohio in particular are going to be very close states so.

Adopting rules it.

In effect kill the coal industry in America until cold.

As a useful fuel -- Electrify the country at least half of it is gonna hurt Barack Obama stuff.

40% of the electricity that -- you run Internet comes from that dirty old -- that they got the -- as the ground.

Bill the question over for you though is.

As -- points out -- -- Italy's refugee problem by thirty points and he's going to get absolutely shelled.

In southern Ohio Kentucky southern Indiana -- central and southern Illinois a local states he's gonna lose big.

But the Democrats from those places I mean Joseph Manchin -- -- junior senator from West Virginia he talks like a Republican when he comes out after the president on this stuff he absolutely imports -- Now how are you going to make that it here -- gonna make that adhere to the guy you're running again.

Actions speak louder than words I -- chest and -- my whole life and you have to prove yourself.

My opponent has traces not prove himself he joins things that we told the joint we -- -- take on Washington we do do do what's right we should be energy independent.

And West Virginia can really help in that regard.

We'll probably have more straight ticket Republican votes West Virginia this year than Democrats that bodes well for our our election and everybody down about we're starting to figure out we really are conservative.

The Republicans are pretty conservative that's.

It's a national trend where we feel for the next state to really -- And a lot of great candidates have stepped up -- we lost a close election last year.

Yeah we are usually really close we should point out that mr.

Maloney lost.

In a special election to replace Joseph mansion is governor last year very -- by going to move two point flew over two -- by two points to race common by the way.

The -- we hope that we'll get to see governor Tomlin here.

Some one of these days but Fred questions.

Part of the consequence of this say -- the power companies and say the coal industry is going to be more expensive less reliable electricity for people -- claim from the right and from the power companies is.

That this is going to have an effect for all Americans because the costs go up but it's probably not gonna happen before Election Day that's a longer term thing that's -- can groups like crossroads and others effectively make the case.

That coal or energy generation actually matters to.

Folks but we can make the case but you're right to the impact won't be tangible fine night early November 2012.

But still it's a very strong argument and Cole is one of the great natural resources that America has.

Not many countries have -- Japan doesn't some European countries -- others don't.

And end if you.

The if you block it out to make.

The tiniest most marginal.

Improvements in air pollution alone -- then he's gonna drive up prices -- -- dramatically self.

In 2012 it'll be an argument it'll be a reality in later years -- -- -- now bill.

Do.

I I have heard some tremendously tough language coming I mean you heard -- Robert -- you -- the head of the United Mine Workers and -- killing.

-- like they like the seals killed Osama bin Laden he told -- -- the -- -- virtual host of the best talk show.

In West Virginia I told him that.

And you've there's a letter writing campaign from governor I'll blunt there's all that stuff I mean they are pushing the president -- then what we need to do a little bit more than that actually join all these other lawsuits we called on.

You know he gets wrong so what Barack Obama let's get Barack Obama fired Lisa Jackson.

The best we -- out -- this morning parties that Jackson was really take this opportunity relatively easy here in -- right in there is one thing that can happen them.

Was at the race is close if Barack Obama's behind in July August September.

You'd be surprised if he can do and telling EPA to back off at least temporarily and he did he did for a long time on myself for a for a long time facing political pressure going to mid terms.

Pulled back on cap and trade pulled back under the regulations after the mid terms the EPA has come out with this series of rules.

Funny how the last -- can operate under the Obama care hearings like nobody was watching.

Real well I will say this I must credit this administration as being some of the best Turkey jumpers.

They're today -- concert Turkey -- Friday at 4:30 PM I assume you'll see some amazing stuff you don't fly that every administration does to these guys are really good -- it.

So final question for you bill before we -- before we let you get back to a better place.

Is this truth that's right that's right and this golf course part.

Are hard hillbilly affirmative action program that -- -- get people to get more access work or mountain folk but the question for you bill as.

Win the president -- win.

You get to the end of this election cycle don't you expect to hear.

-- -- -- -- That Barack Obama is no Dag gone good he's not even gonna vote form doesn't he have room to move your direction -- welcome to say I I I guess who's gonna vote for the convention.

Oh he's a delegate.

I assume is the that won't be any I don't -- they -- campaigning against them I'm not voting for -- and -- residence West Virginia.

Okay really does we -- -- Internet there you have it thanks --