Congress investigates GSA spending
Lis Wiehl and Marc Alacqua discuss the alleged misuse of money
- Duration 9:03
- Date Apr 17, 2012
Lis Wiehl and Marc Alacqua discuss the alleged misuse of money
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All right let's stick now would -- Secret Service prostitution scandal I'm joined in the studio now -- -- -- Fox News legal analyst you well know.
Moscow Blackwell former prosecutor and military -- -- good to see much as he let me come to you first because -- a military component to this -- well.
Some of our soldiers apparently involved in this summary in the -- -- soldiers the Marines but military personnel.
Use a pro.
-- -- -- Now must trust Brian I don't know with a personal large sprawling army they usually do -- the communications support on these missions were so chance sorts army that you have seen it before you -- -- -- -- you know.
No you shouldn't be that big of a surprise that that you guys overseas.
And and agents traveling overseas in certain parts of the world and it's it's fairly white guys and what's so.
What's the what's the -- that the problem wind Secret Service agents indulging in this kind of activity.
What that won't -- -- Arnold obviously people can have a moral problem and it but what's the what's the security problem.
First -- -- Apparently not a crime in Columbia what was done right but there's certain misconduct.
Aspects to it also -- security aspects if they bring.
Anyone into there quarters where there are they have that the president's itinerary and notes of where -- communications equipment all all sorts of possible is for compromise -- president's safety.
And you know there there there are things that are illegal in this country that are not legal when you're traveling and but.
You know I think it serves thank you can't use drugs and answer them and say it was legal and right right that they're punished.
It wasn't legal ramifications for this than -- to be -- right it is there's nothing illegal that happened there -- that would have been for the reserves for your service personnel yes yes.
Could -- Frightening lack of judgment and security imagine if any of those notes have gotten to people.
Through the prostitutes they have been somehow involved with any you know terrorist organization something like that.
So yes is it be illegal straight on the -- on the surface maybe not but it's so it's such a horrible indictment and -- news network obviously.
Of these of these.
Whose solo -- what happens next there this thrown out of the Secret Service would you assume up.
Depending on how directly -- they're related I mean people who throwing at prostitutes and rooms and thought it was a job supervisors organizers let's -- Anybody who knew about it I'm with and the and the military personal they could be.
Pandering prostitution -- -- for -- -- became a crime in 2006.
Prior to that was not a crime and it was.
In I remember guys go to Korea where prostitution is rampant and that was sort of standard.
Because in your political fall classic -- -- that's right they change rules -- military person who prosecuted just for that.
And there -- a written there's a difference here to fight you know.
The guy serving in Vietnam or whatever it although you know the soldiers on the ground -- -- on the grand.
Indulging in this -- -- rational enough.
Tomorrow all of that but here -- talk express little -- busy protecting the president of the United States now he wasn't there.
That's true but they had his itinerary they -- delivery was going to be.
All that information all that information -- -- out.
And that's what's so frightening that's not a political thing it doesn't matter Democrat Republican it doesn't matter talking with president often -- -- president of the united sent markets.
-- hard to believe that the organizations.
That might want to calm.
The president -- United States' interest as a whole might use prostitutes as they wait get information out.
That's what that's what they sure has briefed on it took us you know the espionage and he has called -- honey pot it's not necessarily a prostitutes you know any attractive man or woman could potentially.
Be trying to -- their information from him I think I'm afraid that you're gonna find out that -- a lot of these advance teams to countries.
This type of behavior maybe not this -- goes on right because there's the protected -- not there.
They get in early once they do that set -- is not a lot of a lot for them to do right and you I think you may find as time goes on that this is not all that.
I think yeah in other words surprised -- Laura what about you as a -- weighing in here saying they opposite too much time and money on Manzi should be.
-- the Secret Service agents to do this people and I don't understand the nationals -- they create.
Very dangerous for all of us cities so what do you say -- -- -- for the military -- it was illegally -- -- prosecution -- -- -- and it's a crime under the.
Uniform code of military justice which laws -- govern service personnel to.
To what they called.
Can pander like socialist and finally it wouldn't seem unreasonable.
Effort to -- attitude to have that same standard of behavior for secrecy about it.
Absolutely correct I would think of the and that's the same level or even higher you know -- service.
I don't understand -- that seems to be wrong but you know you can disagree with -- -- think just -- should be applied equally to everybody well.
You know in the service for -- person for US civilians travelling overseas and not bound by US love for US military personnel traveling overseas that are always down.
Where they are but I -- it turns.
-- -- -- They're bound by the civilian laws.
Have to be I think under that they plan to their conduct policy is that you know I don't know are firing range they're gonna get fired but -- criminal rust the president.
All right all right let's get to wait another issue of government.
This behavior the General Services Administration will -- be following this story.
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The least well -- probably with this talent and.
At least speaking well yesterday -- took the fifth which means he's a sudden I'm not gonna it is an alien eighties the it.
If mission mission of the GSA right they took the fifth -- that I am not gonna say it's gonna connect it credit myself.
By the way he's still on the -- right which is amazing to me my guess after the investigation of fired up but.
He sent his wife you -- links to videos that were taken very and so it's pretty clear that you know he was completely the wrong and should be fired.
And he should not be getting paid PS of rice take the fifth as American citizen but it's like if you haven't it jury trial you know you always want to -- -- say to defend it.
Defendant's lawyer not to stand -- don't -- anything -- can't hold it against you go to the stand.
But c'mon everybody knows we don't take -- -- you say what was going on -- -- a government employee.
Don't -- in front of congress and just refusing to on some questions just seems.
Extraordinary to me it's eight -- I don't -- It's an insult to congress how to.
Adding insult to injury I guess it illegal it is is it it is an insult he has is constitutional rights he's fine I can keep his job I don't know his position.
What the protections -- as he senior executive staff -- they have some certain due process for the can just get rid of them but.
He's going to be got a -- that's what -- thinks -- about it that the reason they didn't just cut him off without pay was because they have to go through the investigation and -- -- they don't want it gets sued by him we're cutting it off too quickly but.
I can't imagine that's going on for more than a couple of days of him losing his salary -- did his job.
-- I was his face find out a political point due diligence fire they have you know these since like superior tears Dragonball GS is another level of of civil service -- license -- for doing.
The toll of not being surprised about this kind of bad behavior it Cindy goes on -- -- -- government departments we know that it's.
I guess I'm just so innocent about that I couldn't have been able -- hit a beautiful couple.
I guess so I mean look at these two stories is of the last couple days and -- horrible I'm.
We got like thirteen videos of -- apparently the incumbent exactly breaking about it this is great -- wanted to make this big event of a big hoopla.
Right I mean it's against just any Jarrett in his view it's very charitable view that it was character building and team.
Spirit building now I think that's why is there anything I think I don't think most is -- is the money comes from outside that's a different different level corruption where it's.
Prizes like government contractors -- With some private organizations that are funny -- boondoggles and their bad enough but to find out that the government's final -- on opening grand listen.
But again at least we're looking at people being fired here there's not any legal action that's going to be taken against -- -- Don't think -- employees were going on a boondoggle that the employee -- had provided.
So it's not really illegal and that way and gets it wrong -- and should.
People he fired yes but.
-- many prosecutions now I don't I think I think there is a chance -- Because some of -- so there are some emails from nearly say you know inviting his friends and saying hey we'll cover the bill.
Now you know under the you know this comes under the federal acquisitions regulations the contract thing.
And if you intentionally miss appropriate money.
-- -- -- My nutrition that's concept can be quite differently -- interest in the luck -- cannot collect local prosecutor and military -- thank you very much bigger yeah at least we'll Fox News legal analyst good to see you expect to do it thanks guys aren't as you probably.