Is the government ignoring affordable stress treatment?
Dr. Eugene Lipov cannot get funding for important study
- Duration 8:48
- Date Apr 18, 2012
Dr. Eugene Lipov cannot get funding for important study
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Entity our next topic has to do with something that's -- breaking news this week I don't know if you're aware of this.
As our servicemen and women are coming home from different wars the veterans administration.
Has been looking at how to treat him.
-- -- posttraumatic.
Stress disorder and it can lead all sorts of depression and and even violent behaviors.
As -- looking at that there's -- doctor in Chicago who's come up with something that.
Scientists argue really works he wants to do a trial it costs about a million dollars to do the trial and the VA apparently the government doesn't want to pay for it.
The big question is how much will they pay in the meantime treating all this doctor Eugene look -- you see on the screen now.
Is joining us from our Chicago bureau doctor thank you for joining us this morning.
They -- him in good morning.
Good morning to you first of all I wanna talk about what you've come across.
And how it works tell me about it.
Sure how long the procedure.
I'm on this is -- -- -- position but doesn't aesthetics and I do in Madison.
So one of the procedures that has been used since 1925.
-- -- -- -- gave him -- it's an injection of a local anesthetic in the -- And so uninteresting events I figured out -- -- for posttraumatic stress disorder.
You would like to know how courts yes.
I want to know how it works -- I watched -- video where you injected in the neck area using.
And X rated short of or some sort of radiology to show you where and what are you looking for -- that injection point and what is -- that -- injecting.
OK but I was doing was.
The X rays used to guide the needle the needle has to go on the right side at -- -- level which is a vertebra in an -- -- the needle goes in the right spot we put some die and I take an X ray and the died basically shows me when everything is gonna go.
After everything is in the correct -- there I put mark Kane and mark Cano because McCain is I assumed.
If you women have along but if -- girls that's a drug misuse.
-- used so it's a nerve block.
That's all it is just coming up a bundle of nerves for the united.
Going to have to bundle of nerves for neurological or psychological.
I should say disorder.
I think -- that that's a tremendous question of course.
I can tell you -- how it came about and I think you'll become apparent.
That's I started using -- -- I personally use the -- for twenty years before I start using for this indication what this reason.
Com but what I found there was some literature saying that is being used forsake after conditions.
But the main reason that -- is the following.
-- two papers on them.
-- essentially there are dubious information it's highly important.
The way that bundle of nerves and Mac has been shown to have a direct connection to parts of the brain that control PT as the such as an -- in and -- court that's when I put the local anesthetic and on bundle of nerves.
That route all of -- that have grown extra nerves from -- on him in the brain.
Seems to turn that often sets of back to normal stuff away.
Putting the patient back we'll do a leg before to Disney.
-- it -- said two things what's the other.
So the bundle of nerves in the -- connect to that -- section that controls PT SD.
And that's what's the what's the rest of the story.
But the rest of the story I I can get a little more on specific but that it basically.
When somebody says sort experiences and all full -- them -- have a leg blown off or something horrible happens.
He substance -- he created called nerve growth factor and GF.
It has been shown.
Fairly convincingly already.
Wins and -- arrives in the brain it promotes growth of new nerves.
It's called sprouting so you think you would like to leave symmetry it and when those nerves arrive they start to produce a substance called in -- -- an -- Not a connect friends like adrenaline you probably heard about -- if you're about that you're about to get hit by Abbas you come off I went from the -- you start shaking.
-- -- -- fun watching them.
But think it would persistently going there.
Urine test and PT as the victims has been shown to demonstrate the system -- enough and increase -- that's also known.
And the key component.
Thank you the key component to this explanation.
His once you put the local static on to -- -- they gave him.
It turns up and GM set once and GM goes away think of NJ Affleck a fertilizer for the tree then you take away fertilizer.
The trio loses its leaves and goes back to being better and that's what the blog question does.
You know what I'm -- this out right now that this is incredible and and look I'm obviously not a doctor although I have a tremendous interest and have studied some forensic science.
I have such an interest in those -- because I'm a former military brat and and I know that when my dad came back from three tours in Vietnam he was dealing with issues.
-- CST is a very real thing and and it can ruin families that can rip families to -- We have to deal with -- the veterans administration must know this so what is the disconnect between the scientific knowledge that you've just taught all of us which.
I'm looking at the live chat I got -- doctor.
I mean I'm not really a but I got it up pictures would help so I I I wanna go to the web I -- pictures in my book and like teach me all about it but the the fact that the VA now the government doesn't want to do this now we put up your website so that helps me out tremendously.
But what what is what is the connection point it's missing between this government putting it into play and our men and women getting what they need.
You asked me why is the government not support this path why why can't you what -- million dollars to do a trial.
Well let me just quickly tell you of the -- -- -- funding OK and I -- get a feel for OK the in 2007.
-- special agency was developed by congress need to -- -- easy being a problem general Sutton was in charge of that.
She was given half a billion dollars to -- PT is the problem.
They put out a call for speaking as the treatments I answered the call for DOD -- proposal.
And they stuck it down -- they did the same thing -- more time again general Sutton was there.
And that -- part applied to four bit trick which is a army center for -- is the I keep in mind meanwhile general -- span might -- -- in projects I was not -- but one of them was my favorite which is theater of war.
Three point seven million dollars to spend the following fashion.
They said that the idea was -- soldiers and it gives you what you -- -- plays.
And it melts away -- as -- that was the thinking.
Well they turned -- was three point seven it's three point seven million dollars of taxpayers' money found not does not work that way.
You ask why was I not -- the scientific review -- mighty surge was the following are two reasons they believe it was not.
Fond of all -- should not be found that I wanted.
I do not have a medical explanation -- ports.
How can I might response of them was how to theater war works -- anyone discuss that with me all right well as -- center isn't.
The second reason is that it is many treatments available right now he's known you for your.
Well what I've read it she said she was that this is not the first option this will be a last resort where you want it to be made.
Available to our servicemen and women coming back with.
Clinically diagnosed PT -- where can people find more out about this you have a web -- we put it up and give me exactly what the website is real quickly if you can.
Chicago medical innovations that or Chicago medical innovation that is not in our nation's you know there anything that you need people to do you at this point.
-- -- have a lot of military people who follow me on Twitter so wanted to tweak this out.
Why that a couple of things I wrote a book about it that's called.
For what Semitic stress disorder -- -- This basically has its written in lay people's terms so I think it'd be easy to understand.
For every copy of the book -- -- five dollars goes to Chicago medical innovation and I got -- hand I've been treating people without.
I'm also doing that actually the state of Illinois gave me 82000 dollars to do a study in very limited study here.
So I'm looking for volunteers and -- -- -- doctor.