New book exposes Fast & Furious scandal
Author Katie Pavlich on her new book
- Duration 5:57
- Date Apr 20, 2012
Author Katie Pavlich on her new book
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Well congressional investigators continue to probe who authorized the program.
Known as fast and furious.
A botched gun tracking operation linked to the deaths of at least one perhaps two federal agents.
But a new book promises to blow the lid off of this case claiming that the White House and the DOJ were behind the operation and then conspired to cover up.
What was actually an effort to advance an anti gun agenda.
Two days ago I sat down with Katie -- -- she's news editor at town hall dot com and she's the author of this new book fast and furious.
Obama's -- scandal and the shameless cover up.
So I wanna start with this you're 23 years old you look young how much like experience can you have how deep into this scandal are you.
And white -- viewers believe that -- 23 year old was able to blow the lid off -- the case that paralyzed side senator Grassley have not yet been -- We get to the bottom I -- to every hearing that they haven't on Capitol Hill expert with the exception of one I've developed.
Relationships with the whistle blowers on the ground the very same with the blowers who blew the lid off this in the first place became the congressman said we've been -- guns into Mexico feet.
I get on this case from every turn I've I've listened to all the details I've talked to people on the ground I know what's going on.
You claim that you -- that that that they know who was behind this operation.
And it goes up to the highest levels of the department of justice and that the White House was participating in this absolutely I mean -- that from the beginning the White House the Justice Department they've been acting guilty not innocent providing documentation about this.
We still no answers about Brian Terry's murder.
They have it -- what they haven't complied with congressional subpoenas.
Not to mention the evidence points towards they were doing this in an effort to show that guns from America for ending up at violent crime scenes in Mexico and order to regulate -- gun shops.
What evidence do you have that that was the purpose because the administration says they didn't know about it.
It was a local operation -- -- ATF from Phoenix and once Eric Holder found out about it he put a stop to what evidence do you have.
That in fact was sanctioned if not run and conceive god.
About and to the DOJ and to the White House well there's email but more importantly in I had an interview in the book with an insider it's Kevin -- saying look we've set -- -- shops up.
There was -- an an idea from the Justice Department to show.
And push this false narrative that mom and pop gun shops are deliberately selling to straw purchasers.
And and those starts -- -- transferring those guns to the violent hands that are murdering people and Mexico in an effort to push.
More gun regulations now.
What we do what I do in the books I go back to the Obama administration the head of the heads -- -- on -- Eric Holder Barack Obama.
Dennis Burke forming S attorney for Arizona.
Works for Janet Napolitano and she was attorney general of Arizona.
Worked as her chief of staff when she was governor of Arizona followed her into the White House when she was appointed to Homeland Security secretary -- senior advisor.
And Homeland Security.
Turns out he actually helped -- and and right up to Clinton Era of assault weapons ban with the Rahm Emmanuel.
-- of course -- does Barack Obama's chief of staff.
Not to mention Dennis Burke.
Saying he was while here at the -- turning Arizona was on attorney general Eric -- attorney general's advisory board.
Giving him advice as to what was going on on the border the gun trafficking policies -- -- implementing.
He was in charge of those coming out of Arizona he was in touch with -- in touch with Eric Holder and type of Homeland Security.
Emails between ATF officials in Phoenix and the White House also show that the White House national security team you know I knew all about this including.
President Obama as Latin America and senior advisor on a national security don't.
They claim what we've heard so far as they claim they knew a bit about fast and furious but not the controversial.
Aspects of -- because of course President Bush had an operation.
Called wide receiver that was done in cooperation with the Mexican government which is not the case -- -- -- But that the administration this time around has said that's what we knew that there was something akin to what had already been done under the Bush Administration not that there were these these nefarious goals and a purposes of letting guns walk and letting them go -- the -- -- -- backpack that guys with out you know tracing that.
Right -- go back once again an idea told us exclusively in the book he go back to the beginning of the Obama administration early 2009.
President Obama gave direct orders to Eric Holder to reassess the policies of -- -- -- on the southwestern border.
Janet Napolitano was on board -- that it was a top priority.
Top priority to make sure guns weren't going into Mexico -- -- pushing this false narrative that 90% of guns in Mexico that cartels are using.
Are coming from mom and pop gun stores and America.
That was false proven by WikiLeaks proven by agents on the ground -- -- ATF data at -- once that was proven false they wanted to continue to push that narrative so they can.
All these guns are ending up these violent crime scenes in Mexico we have to do something that is gunshots and American -- them to the cartels when at the same very same time.
The -- officials are telling the gunshots are helping your country based selling to these straw purchasers we're gonna track these guns which they never had any intention of doing.
Have you reached out to the White House to the Department of Justice for comment on the -- mean we haven't read the whole book.
I haven't met I imagine based on what I've heard Eric Holder safer congress he disagrees that these assertions of course and -- they have the White House Homeland Security of the Justice Department never return our phone calls they weren't interested in getting us any information.
Always handed you know give us -- said they would get back to us never got back to me is so.
We tried you know it didn't cover up from top to bottom White House covering up -- -- is covering up.
And the Justice Department has covering and a well -- -- and senator Chuck Grassley continue to look -- -- in continue to look for answers that.
You say you -- -- this bucket of our viewers want a preview of what Katie says she's found you can -- to view that book right there fast and here is Katie all the best if they get some us thanks for being here.