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Tonight out of control embarrassed -- -- -- is the new image of our federal government.
From the GSA the Secret Service it is one scandal after another and are Americans seven just plain fed up and we'll big -- their frustration in November.
-- -- -- Karl -- author of the book courage and consequence.
-- -- Great to see you then husband quite a week we've had to have some GS AS scandal guys in Macon bathtubs would unmatched in wine glasses slipped.
Please I'm not the expert on the etiquette of naked best.
Club appearances with flying glass and that's -- but pigs and.
How and then we have this hookers scandal in -- Columbia where runners just do protecting the president preparing form.
And -- you wanna pay the bill for the Huskers found with a Secret Service is here in mid I has serious sent note.
Found.
It -- all these scandals gonna sell alienate voters that just like throw the bum out no matter who's running.
No I I don't.
Thanks so I mean I think he got to differentiate between the Secret Service which I think -- have people are gonna hold the Secret Service responsible for whatever ultimately comes out of this story.
And the GSA where I do think they will say well you had your person in charge of this agency your political appointee what was she doing and why wasn't she paying attention to business.
But look the worst thing for the president is not the long term effect of this is specifically.
It's a long term sense that -- -- out of control.
And the sense that he's in charge and -- and an even more than that is it obscures his ability to get any other kind of message out.
He's chewed up the last couple weeks on Hilary Rosen and now on this and I mean it's obscuring his ability to get you know whether a message that I think you probably consider more beneficial.
I suspect that it'll be we have pushed right in his face to talk about change and this whole GSA thing is not new wind in terms of scandals -- this president.
But -- -- if you run on the sort of this the atom bomb truck you know I'm a change things can you know and -- we see it's their business as usual and that's and it's easy to change a whole culture of Washington but this is the mean I think and I think Americans are particularly -- appalled by this.
I think you're right it one of the great promises he had was he was gonna change -- change that tunnel portion changed portions -- -- people got to read into that what they wanted to.
And where there was post partisanship.
Or dysfunctional abortion they thought it was gonna take care of that enthusiasm and until agreed to GSA adds -- -- it it it it's not helpful to.
You know it's it's it's tension that's part of the sound -- found last year governor Romney had that sound bite played over and over and adds we're says I don't like -- -- -- like.
I like to fire people and before -- gasping -- to fire people.
And now -- I would suspect this is from a Greta wire blogger.
That I like to fire people it's sort of a lot of viewers would like to have someone to fire Stefano TSA workers and Secret Service announced.
It can be turned around.
Now what we like to all be in charge of making decisions about who we deal with in our lives -- -- where we've our car where we -- so where we.
I eat our meals where we take our wonder we like to be in charge -- the president's we require them to be.
You know the buck stops -- areas Truman's famous.
Monterey and I think people do wanna know what the president is -- to move particularly with the GSE scandal where he has a lot of direct authority.
Get if you look at sort of how much money has squandered the city in the -- with -- on that fancy AM.
Party and in Vegas and not to mention the bathtub and the line which I love you -- fixated on that took a lot of makes me very uncomfortable.
Isn't really I added a caveat I can't imagine his wife apparently posted at which is like in my as the with the book of course -- my husband would do it but sexually as my husband would probably shoot me if -- -- -- some that I backed.
-- did you think there was gonna impress her FaceBook fans.
What Clinton in the new look at the FaceBook with a Secret Service where they were the guys -- about checking out Governor Sarah Palin supposedly watching me.
-- erratic hereditary and -- in my -- the White House and became a very.
Find an enormous respectful of people who service the Secret Service and I would suspect that when when this is all said and done.
The people who are most -- and most upset and most angry about the performance of these eleven agents are going to be their colleagues in the secret services does not speak well.
The agency that these men and women.
-- -- their lives to and they take on an awesome responsibility when they used to join the Secret Service and I would suspect here.
Know many of the men and women and I'm I was fortunate to call colleagues and friends of the White House are going to be very upset with the performance of these elimination.
You know I can't see nothing but seriousness of purpose among the Secret Service.
But then -- -- -- if he's putting this on FaceBook.
His friends are seen at his -- surprisingly he's pricing -- at the office so you know it is there -- a lot of people calling new bottom didn't blow the whistle that this guy who's -- a supervisor.
Is trying to pay attention to his job so you know I actually think its it people who turned to look the other way and didn't blow the whistle people trying to look the other way and about these parties and TSA there are others who may now have been put directly involved -- they know.
Well let's also be careful about one thing he was a supervisory body was not a supervisor of the presidential protective detail the so called PPD this is the these -- people who protect the president when he and president goes abroad.
To do -- and international conference and they need additional agents so reach out through the rest of the Secret Service.
And it came it was interesting to me one of the agents was an international sanctions and another one of the agency of the three resigned.
Was in the training facility.
Neither one of -- was in the presidential protective.
Details except that they did that protect a vice presidential candidate.
-- -- -- -- -- -- I found that much tougher second about this -- about the election there's been news today and of course every time that governor Jeb Bush says anything you know we know we grab it.
You know and when -- spent hours trying to let them figure out what he meant but then there's a report that he said that it he would consider running as vice president on the Republican ticket if bass bass also and they didn't they PBS.
-- thought.
Well you -- a security cradle a bit of speculation here for a couple days.
With some interested me -- were -- were on April 20 this decision is likely to be made in July or early August.
Or mid August even because the Republican dimension is at the tail end of August are we gonna spend the next -- -- -- April may June July and part of August talking about vice president yes -- yes we are.
And an interesting -- is look at this point in 2000 who would have thought that it was going to be.
Dick Cheney or Joseph Lieberman who at this point in 2004 thought it would be.
John Edwards who at this point in 2000 I thought it would be Joseph Biden or Sarah Palin so the speculation is -- and then we'll all get into it will just sort of will be like herald.
Tale full of political bathtub vice presidential bathtub -- -- Yeah.
I'll tell you what they feel comfortable might want to put -- That felt like I'm not very disquieting about your conversation about the -- and -- -- -- -- -- we're gonna spend in the next several months talking about this but it's it's it is going to be a.
Very interesting process inside the campaign it is going to be a meticulous conscientious thoughtful in depth process.
In which they examine the public statements of public actions.
The rumors the speculation the financial records you name it.
Of all of these potential vice presidential running mates.
And we're all going to be out -- -- speculating about who is going to be remind not meet at the end of the day is going to be something that probably catches us by as us.
For -- let's assume that all accounts are -- -- any skeletons in there and they're in that closet anyone he might consider.
What is that the governor Romney will be what does he need most of what would be the most helpful to him.
As a running -- Well.
That's interesting you put at the right way and -- he's got to look for.
From the perspective of the president of the United States this is the first presidential decision.
Our president makes any makes it when he is a candidate.
Barack Obama made it as a candidate George W.
Bush made it as a candidate but it was -- first presidential decision and you put in the right context who isn't out of the -- available people.
Who is that there's going to be a good partner and then really in the in the act of governing who will be a good partner them an old in the Oval Office in other words whose judgement really trust.
Whose abilities -- they do they recognize what kind of talents will they bring that will add to the ability -- the president to get his job done.
And second of all -- all the country have confidence in if something terrible happens to the president of the United States.
That's gotta be in the back and anybody who occupies that office because too often in our history.
The president has come from the ranks of the vice president.
The political considerations ought to be secondary handling I'm I'm I'm the -- -- in the 2000 campaign was completely focused on politics.
You know George W.
Bush was not -- Then you know the moment July -- 2000 and and I when he asked me to come in until I tell him why he shouldn't take Dick Cheney and I -- I'm in my main -- sitting five feet away from president -- then governor bush.
Ten Dick Cheney so President Bush called me the next day and said look all those political reasons you -- why should -- -- -- right.
-- all those political problems but I'm looking at this as a prospective president.
And he would be a great partner and really to me in the Oval Office and if something terrible happened to me the country would have confidence in him as leader of the free world are.
I don't play the parlor game since it is April we have and what we -- and tell August.
What do you think governor Jeb Bush would be that he won't be his greatest.
Contribution of the -- that he is an articulate proponent of reform conservatism which is going to be what's got anything in it which is.
You're starting last November Mitt Romney indicated was going to be the -- -- -- general election campaign.
Entitlement reform budget reform groups pro growth policies reforming the tax code he and Jim would be an articulate advocate on his second mole he be.
Enormously effective in Hispanic community he's.
Married to a Mexican American he speaks fluent Spanish Catholic and understands the community and comfortable campaigning in it and have be helpful.
And Florida.
And Florida but look here there's a debate in political science of -- -- -- have brought -- little prematurely here.
Evaluating the impact -- vice presidential selection on voter choice and very interesting one called the vice presidential home state advantage reconsidered.
The head allies and interactive effects of home state population and political experience in 198042008.
I'm sure you're gonna want.
You know what I will mean that actually in front edifice that would come back next week I have -- I'll -- great sounding tested scenario excellent thank you.
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