AFL-CIO launches website attacking CEO salaries
Big Labor looks to shame corporate America
- Duration 9:15
- Date Apr 21, 2012
Big Labor looks to shame corporate America
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Trying to shame as CEOs big labor boss Richard Trumka just launching a website exposing how much big company CEOs make.
But some here say how about exposing this folks big labor's plan.
To spend 400 million dollars in union dues this election year and nearly all of it expected help support President Obama and other democratic candidates who many of their members don't even support.
Hi everybody I'm David has been welcomed a Forbes odd box let's go involves -- the man himself Steve Forbes -- -- guard Victoria -- Elizabeth MacDonald.
Whipped Unger and Dennis Neal -- Steve even -- a lot of union members and it's up about 40%.
Support Republicans over 90% of of the money unions spend on candidates go to Democrat.
Yet David you never know but back in 1988 the Supreme Court said you can't force union dues for political purposes it's never been effectively enforce it should be enforced -- as a matter of fact you shouldn't get dues for political purposes.
And -- the union member actually says take it out.
And has written permission.
That would level the playing field very quickly Greg Conger I was one of those union members who voted Republican is about 40% of union members do I -- pretty upset about this now.
What you know what let's set aside for the moment Steve's interpretation a financial core.
I do want to say we greatly appreciate this this this outpouring of affection for union members and your heart warming concern but let me make a suggestion.
Maybe you can direct that towards America's public companies who are making contributions to political organizations and not telling their shareholders how do we know that.
Just this week some of our nation's largest companies had to publicly withdraw their support.
From an organization that was supporting causes that their shareholders didn't like.
Their customers didn't like and when they complain these organizations about why didn't their shareholders know what.
Because they have no obligation -- tell them.
Even in the hole and try to save it map all right Rick we urge you Freddie Mac the fact is is that a lot of these complaints by shareholders get results from a lot of the complaints by union members don't -- union bosses continue to.
To put the money where they want which is in democratic coffers that's.
Right and you know we're time a government unions that get their money from taxpayers.
Rick is referring to companies which get their money from the free market and investors that's a big difference.
And you know the other thing to have trumka is said that -- what he's doing the AFL CIO -- comparing fat cats CEO pay.
With teachers and -- we shouldn't it be comparing the fact cat union boss may fifth Richard -- trumka is solidly in the 1% in its nearly 300000 a year or so but the issue is you're absolutely right and I got a 100%.
It's it's just about up there Rick and he can quibble with the numbers but here's the deal -- -- right thank you -- David nine out of ten union members happy you know basically.
-- are not Democrats most of the a lot of them are Republicans and they get corralled and bullied and -- -- -- -- union members like you know spending and taxing at the state level what many don't -- I'm Richard what do you think about all that's.
Well I'm for full disclosure I think if trumka Wannstedt publicized CEO salaries that's fine I think we should publicize his background well he actually did violence and he was ahead of that united -- another person in the 1980s.
He was sanctioned by a Virginia judge in the 1996.
He let the Communist Party back into the AFL CIO.
He quoted you said he was one step above one step below a socialist when he was.
So he was the humidity is worse than that so I think people should know about his background and I'm for full disclosure for every one.
Well I'm -- thanks to -- -- back we now have full disclosure but Dennis what about this particular issue.
In the last election thirty -- -- -- union members voted Republican but over 90%.
Of the union dues right politics went Democrat.
I got -- I love that Rick under its first instinct was to do exactly what trumka is doing which is.
When you wanna talk about munitions -- let's divert on to those fat cats Hillary's inside corporations that they -- too much money that is the business of their shareholder and everybody that company.
When a company makes political contributions and may I please speak when a company makes political -- chance read it does not.
Not that money from worker pay when a union makes political contributions it comes directly from worker pay unions instead to do this.
We'll collect your -- guys and we will use it -- to push for benefits and negotiations and and better better term.
And then for political fund were asking you to donate a second.
Source of money to a political fund which we're gonna use for democratic -- -- let the workers truly have a voice Unionist.
-- -- let you back about first we haven't heard from Victoria go ahead -- -- Dennis that's a genius idea because it gets rid of this sort of corrupt issue -- unions.
However it is also the -- -- reason that you are not a union box because clearly this would not be in the union bosses injures to make this kind of separation the way they have it now is incredibly powerful.
Ford now yes -- their organizations.
And it's come really wanted in the fact that -- is that there's no choice here for union members actually joined the union and then again to have their funds diverted to political -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Rick -- it always comes down for me to choice if there's less choice is not a good thing -- great.
Yeah accept there's there's a few quick points number one Dennis I said nothing about what what people get paid and corporations that had nothing whatsoever to do you do when I was making.
That aside that aside nobody ever wants to recognize Steve pointed out the financial core role.
If -- union member does not want their dues to go towards a political contribution.
They have a right to exercise an opt out of does -- Yeah hey honey what did it.
Except for the right to work states in this country they have no right whatsoever to Philly Philly union yelled go jump on a lot of petty do bridge and wanted -- has been going -- there was paid out.
Yeah -- mind.
Yeah Rick how do you really think they've done I union member under the leadership of Dick from -- would exercise that freedom.
This is a guy in the 1980s when he's head of the United Mine Workers said we should kick them quote bleak.
Out of workers -- get out of line he's a topic -- raging out of the right.
For you know knowledge they have the right you're just saying that they're terrified exercise yeah hot here to have a little about about a right all they don't have the right now.
Let's see if I had that -- -- in terms of the union dues you should only be allowed to collect union dues forcefully for bargaining collective book purposes.
Other things they should be able to write a separate check it should be voluntary not automatic no automatic deduction and by the way you -- Is this environment do you think the NLRB would get anywhere by trying to enforce rules on on Dick trumpeted as a guy who the president practically hugs every time he sees -- yeah.
Most of the NLRB officials are being a political appointees who came from union land.
Don't think it did you see that's the -- play out the state level -- -- California with teachers there.
They want so I don't teachers who want to vote for fiscal reform for spending reform in this state for things like Chris stopping voter fraud but they stopped by the teachers' union there and -- -- to -- the line it happens across the country Victoria go ahead.
No I absolutely agree and I have several friends who either -- -- local government or teachers.
Are in unions they don't really want to be but they feel like they don't have the choice and they don't agree with the political -- that the unions -- arguing and and and funding then tell it to the system is absolutely broken guys.
It to -- on a bigger -- let's keep in mind unions are out of control in this country they represent less than 7% of the private workforce yet.
Richard Trumka is on the phone or in the White House every week when the left have a CEO was there if we really want unions to do good it.
We should have a right to work across the country and let unions and their membership dues because they perform a service for me you know the Teamsters I was told that the forbidden -- mid decade -- Cracked my head open across a -- Steve.
And a handful of cases where workers have had a choice of having up writing checks for political purposes guess what 95% say no break -- go ahead.
I'm just stunned by the things that I'm hearing you know you talk about diversion.
I -- it's unbelievable you're quoting things that happened happened.
Yahoo! did trump is a bad guy because he gets invited to the White House is an idea I think because he said he was going to be a heck why not anybody -- -- -- line that's why is that bad guys -- -- it.
-- -- why should somebody who does that present on the -- economy Democrat into the high post poll -- that -- go ahead last you know what go ahead.
You know what none have you have responded to my request that you tell the public companies to start disclosing their political you were talking I -- almost ninety.
Why she's speaking that -- I'm gonna why won't you do that I don't happen very quickly -- -- wanna deal with their money is -- business and this and I.
What they're doing what their employees did not contribute that money employees to unions are the two big political action have a right to -- -- we got a daily event -- Rick always a good question we gotta go -- thank you --