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Stagger fall segment tonight as we reported yesterday doesn't Secret Service agents are being investigated in a prostitution scandal you'll remember that occurred in Cartagena Colombia on -- Obama's recent trip there.
Well now forces that want to legalize prostitution are using the scandal to advance their agenda.
Where does -- bask in the director of the sex workers project of the urban justice center so what is the linkage between what you want legalized prostitution USA.
And the scandal and not -- Hannah.
Well I think it brings an interest in comparison.
In Cartagena and there is a system where the sex for had right she was able to serve her right she's able to go to the police when she.
-- -- suffered theft and in the United States my clients who are sex workers can never go to the police even when they suffer.
More extreme crimes like rape assault exploitation rights and its interest things.
All the prostitute in Colombia when the allegedly of course -- Secret Service guy wouldn't pay your fee.
Are right she wanted to -- of the quote was cash money.
I think guys -- -- out of the room she went to the cops because prostitution is legal.
There -- are part of fast right and then the police came and then the scandal erupted.
So you say that if prostitution were -- in America the ladies and some men who engage in that would not be victimized by people who don't pay them beat them off.
What do other bad things -- -- that's the main point here.
Well unfortunately under the criminal station system we do see that my clients are afraid to go to the police -- they are themselves victims of -- And for good reason my clients when they do try to report crimes are ridiculed -- ignored and I sometimes even arrested or -- themselves by the police.
I can understand that the police did don't put a top priority and ladies who are engaged in prostitution because it is a crime it's like a drug dealers -- -- -- get ripped off.
Get on there on say that's too bad don't deal drugs it's the same thing.
Theoretically from the police's point of view now my beef with legalizing prostitution is basically the same thing -- legalizing marijuana.
That it sends a message.
That this is okay.
And and I know he represents some of these ladies but it.
I think did that selling your body is.
Diminishes a human being it diminishes -- purse.
And it and it does it harm to them.
-- -- -- reporting over 35 years.
I've seen that almost a 100% of the time in this industry and I'm sure you have to do you really want.
To say it's okay to do this and that's what you would be doing by legalizing.
I think -- we would also be doing now is would be reducing all of the harms that sex workers currently face there would -- -- -- I agree I can't disagree there would be harm reduction.
All right because it could be policed pardon upon.
You could have standards and and and set.
But you would always have a segment of drug addicted prostitutes who couldn't get jobs -- legitimate brothels if they were legalized would be on street undercutting what you were trying to do.
But the message to society is saying look if you want to be a hookers go ahead and we of this society.
There's nothing wrong with it but there is there is something wrong -- it most of my clients are not choosing to -- sex work because -- that that is what they choose to do.
Most of my clients are have very few other opportunity will tell you how what do you mean they don't have opportunities this is America the land of opportunity.
It's unfortunate -- and I agree with you I wish that were true for all of my clients.
I had clients tell me why that isn't true though why isn't it true why why did they have to sell their bodies to make a living why can't they get a legitimate job like 99% of the population.
Well I'm I'm afraid that we it in the economy that we have today that is just not -- it's an 8% unemployment -- you can wait tables -- -- -- anytime you want in this city.
But tell me why they can't work industry -- want why do you address the other Kazaa I wanted to know why they can't work -- -- job.
There just aren't jobs and they are not as much economic opportunities are not much educational toys and prostitution in in the boom times has always been people who choose to do that come work.
Absolutely and we are interested in.
All of our clients those who do choose to use prostitution and those who don't have any I think it's harmful doing here and seeing to sell your money don't you think so.
That is not my mind will make a judgment on yet that's not my judgment to make an interest so we do on your experience and all the people you know -- you won't make -- A generalization that -- taking hard narcotics that's damaging to a human being would you agree heroin cocaine would you agree.
Our perspective -- -- -- would even make a judgment on that well -- perspective is not to judge -- -- try to address the human rights of the people that we work with and try to help them the best of thanks very much we appreciate.
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