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The Hit List: Is Madeleine McCann still alive?

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    Bill Daly, Mike Baker, and Tom Ruskin cover this and the secret service scandal

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All right let's get -- scary man they hit -- -- I've Griffin 57 says I love the scariest man I feel safer just yeah.

I don't -- Gloria.

In the streets to build any Tom -- Mike -- hell are we -- -- to talk about today gentlemen so.

-- -- in Iran daily.

First up.

Do you know that that the case that it caught my attention in the in the headlines today you remember the case of Madeleine McCann she was just four year old British case.

On vacation with the parents suddenly went missing they don't arrest from the -- they left of that asleep.

Big comeback she's apparently gone the parents -- under suspicion for sometime now five years -- Edition will be nine is all gonna come to you first home.

How.

Do you look for a child that is being missing five years already well first thing you do is you logically would.

Draw a picture.

Work it -- artist's rendering of what she might look like they've done it.

-- then we'll go out they'll re interview the people and -- basically picking up what we would call cold case is picking up the case.

Re looking at the evidence speaking of private investigators with -- -- Kansas hired.

And determining if there's any stone has not been no turnover.

And then going out and interviewing the people.

It may not been interviewed you also look during two channels of you believes she's a lot.

You wanna look good chance of winning she may have -- bill is that does this is this is.

Does this imply that the rates do not think that the police in Portugal had this problem -- -- that's.

Played I think he's I think -- -- you Johnson won his that I think if you read the statement by a -- welcome polices that they're saying you know she could be alive has chosen to be dead so they are they keeping.

You know that this doesn't -- they have any real immediate information but I think the key thing here.

Is the fact that they discuss it we put up a picture of what she may look like there's a possibility that somebody out there may see her.

By working through their connection through Interpol and should try to you know connect all the dots weren't.

Connected perhaps before.

But I think in this case it's a matter keeping this discussion alive having a picture out there I -- when I was in London.

The question was another kind of round of may be possible spotting you know of -- an enhanced photos of what she may have look like -- picture taken.

They thought that the two with a trial was so there these pennies bodies I'm not a surprise it's good to keep it alive but.

I'm not -- not -- -- sure that they actually have any new information you're going.

If you're looking at somebody has an educated he's been missing five is where we what are you talking about here and some sort of child slavery -- or just somebody was trying to grab a baby you'll.

Any any possible speculation that -- Portuguese was that -- analyst.

Case I was over I was living on the working on them with with my company over that time.

A very good friend of mine who brought one of the finest investigators in Europe.

Has taken this on on his own dime for the past couple of years the movement this and this this man.

As has built in and and so a couple of very strong companies but he is one of the finest investigators and he has always maintained.

That the Portuguese police and they want mishandled this case and it won't play.

Well in terms of the -- that's on not not an uncommon problem what they latch -- -- parents.

As the best probably the prime suspect.

Early stages they.

Didn't take the opportunity to interview some of the witnesses -- -- -- to an actual abduction or killing.

But individuals who were in that resort in that area they didn't follow up on a couple of leaves because -- didn't match what the Portuguese police have decided early on.

Which was -- the parents were somehow responsible.

They've been cleared of this but the problem has been now with the years that have passed.

I think -- the police are doing at this point is the investigators haven't worked for McCants and a couple others again that have been taking this case on.

They've been feeding information and -- and thoughts ideas.

Following up some of the leads that didn't get followed up on properly the first time around I think it -- at this point feel like they don't have necessarily something.

Particularly specific but there is enough there.

-- think we have got to get this thing going again which I'm involved but did just that I mean it -- the parents and as -- -- says being cleared of any involvement here.

What agony for them five years on that their child is growing all the time thinking she partially hopefully is that.

So yeah not knowing has got to just be.

Their ultimate torture I mean I have always singing about that this week because of that you can't -- -- Case coming back can you imagine.

Those parents.

So thirty years on from guys easy this was the child disappeared here in the SoHo district of new you'll you probably -- -- the first child will be featured on -- on -- -- cup and then they started.

Digging up the basement of building -- away.

Every five -- seven years to sings resurfaces there's a bunch of new leads everyone thinks you're gonna find something in the never do and you know parents keep being dragged out of they're kind of get up and back into the -- and then -- very.

Also happen as one of our.

-- -- -- he points out here they have been killed that they have to live with.

That they went -- the restaurant and left there.

In the in the Condo that they weren't but they've been very aggressive since it didn't -- -- I would result is that he would be in hand they've been doing exactly what you need to -- they've been trying to keep this -- and probably got.

And -- this case or any other missing child.

If you don't do that you give you your odds go way way down but they have been doing everything possible to keep this visible.

Are very quickly we you guys as we go to we looked getting today Secret Service scandal -- we stand should -- -- is this done and dusted.

No I don't think I think is that there's -- little after the -- I really isn't an open minded.

As as you as you say from.

Your language.

But I think I think every require is certainly some of this the congressional review.

Hearings and further investigation I think that you know.

-- -- -- you said here not politicize -- -- they don't believe it's a political issue I think it's a cultural perhaps a cultural issue in your organization needs to be -- -- -- and say.

Do we have any these things they're going into need to change something from the top down.

Was -- -- singular incidents over hype I don't just going affected right now taking receive instant incident -- -- it requires more looks to come.

-- that's -- thank you Rick I don't go ahead.

-- I don't know I think I think that.

Congressional oversight but I think that they have -- would do their own investigation.

And looks like you're doing a very aggressive in the investigation that was the only -- -- legend whose Homeland Security as well is the Secret Service -- Is doing their own and there interviewing the girls right morals of the community and they're gonna tell you everything might.

You've been around.

A -- of sort of far operations a lot of slumping and the personnel.

Without without incriminating anybody you know including yourself.

Does this happen all the time I think that's what a lot of people outside it doesn't.

Happening every -- look at who Bob Morton -- -- -- -- I don't think this is the first time gentlemen you took over the -- you know.

You -- this this is done.

It -- to think that this is a singular incident I think it's safe to say would be incredibly night -- The problem is that you don't there's.

We tend to look at it we get sort of salacious view was I hope you remember the ten Russians at -- so that's what we're talking about what I really hot.

The problem here is that.

-- you know -- -- whatever moral ethical issues that you may want to race is -- sleeping with foreign nationals to counterintelligence problem writing can't be done.

Supervisors being involved in it.

Is is really really -- go broke because once you know an -- I've been in this situation in the past in my old organization.

We've had inappropriate behavior when you find out about what are your teammates is doing something that is is -- appropriate.

Again not -- -- point of view but from an intelligence when you and operational when someone brings to grow back there was a -- that's the problem all right you're gonna send them.

Doesn't make you popular and as it can be -- his knowledge and then just before -- is that it's exactly what I think other.

Intelligence organizations use.

Right against it bluntly I don't.

Not to mention them the information and intelligence that was in new rules that -- Potentially couldn't look at that and compromise their mission.

All right Tom built like thank you all very much the company's -- The companies up control risks CME group.

And diligence for all your information is secure enough -- -- -- -- thank you very much gentlemen.

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