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Now we joined by -- I tell who -- CEO of immunity ink.
-- joining us from Miami.
Dave we've gotten so much going on right now -- cyber security.
What -- people really need to know about the cult influence area between new rules being introduced and their own personal privacy.
Well I think.
They're really in Joseph Lieberman put it I think -- -- -- -- but they're really two different things they're trying to solve here.
And one of them is protect a critical infrastructure which is what Joseph Lieberman's bill is.
And the other one is sharing of all sorts of information which is really what the new bill -- but is all about.
-- it it's sort of they call -- -- information sharing protection act but it's really information sharing not a whole lot of protection.
And it supersedes wiretap laws that supersedes -- -- Freedom of Information Act requirements.
It's sort of a blank check for corporations that give what they want a gifted to the government and then of course the government to get it back to other corporations.
Sue in a sense the reason you see people like the American Library Association or -- the for problem Republican liberty association getting together against that is that it it really is quite sweeping.
In terms of how it changes what your personal information can do once you've given it to a cooperation like FaceBook Google -- or anyone else is have been.
-- and Joseph Lieberman talking as you were saying about trying to protect the critical infrastructure but is it.
To completely protect the critical infrastructure.
We've -- stepping on some of Walt we might consider -- privacy rights online.
I think it in in that particular segment he's looking very much -- utilities.
Water sewage how are.
You know that did the depths of your telecommunications infrastructure and so that part of his bill is very focused and not on consumer information.
But on regulating corporations.
To do the right thing when it comes the security and the monitoring it to make sure that they have done the right thing and they know what they're doing.
So that's a very separate problem that's the one that Keith Alexander.
Director the National Security Agency is behind and of course the administration.
And both of these bills are bipartisan bills they're gonna succeed or -- bi partisan sort of successes or failures.
This is not a one party -- by any means.
So it in -- from a from a very basic.
Point of view for our view is it is these cyber information sharing and protection -- -- something they should be worried about it or is it something they need.
I think it's something that the corporations that they give their information to think they need.
-- which in reality they should be very worried about because.
It's and it's just a very big change for how they feel their information should be protected I mean when you send your information over Time Warner Cable.
Or any of your local cable companies that bit.
Do most of your Internet.
That that information now can be shared with the FBI directly so I mean if you're doing tire barrier doing -- -- on the Internet that sort of you probably don't want the FBI looking at then then this is something where they feel free to give it to the FBI or to other departments of of the government and it's just not something people really comfortable with yet -- a -- -- our -- certainly our views seem very concerned we've been Austin on our question of the day here are you worried about the government having too much power.
Over the Internet and the results -- getting right now.
ATC more than 87%.
The new suggested legislation is overstepping the -- -- These people are so worried about -- -- Can only do anything to protect themselves.
Well I think the traditional things that they normally would do would be to go to their congressmen and and complain about it which is still very effective and an electronic frontier foundation.
Has all sorts of petitions against that you're seeing all sorts of people come out against that you're not seeing the big corporations support any sort of opposition because they kind of want it.
And of course it's also very extend a look at you know what do the presidential candidates have to say about it now the administration sort of come out against -- in its current form.
But you know the previous starts actually mild boss Michael Hayden.
Is of course with the Republican candidate and it's interesting to see what's coming out of the Republicans -- on these issues but I'm in this thinner on the on the big picture.
All of of the threat to the country -- All week keeping up.
With the hackers are we just playing as we seem to.
Perhaps seen in physical terrorism.
And it keeping up plane -- -- we reactive rather than proactive.
Well all of defense -- typically brings and I still ballistic missile fired on this -- you and your -- kind of still see and that and that's that's where all any effort here under this bill is really trying to help right they're really trying to say let's do something anything.
But that's not necessarily the best -- -- when so much else on the Internet -- at stake.
All right so that are we doing enough what would -- more -- And -- and should we do in terms of keeping as you said.
The critical infrastructure is safe it's -- very well talking -- but what about action right now.
-- -- action right now is of course the Lieberman bill that's.
That's what it general Keith Alexander has come out strongly for because he doesn't want to have to go to a cyber war and know that his flank is completely unprotected.
And that's that's everything to him as let's make sure that we can keep the power on.
So that when I go out against I ran -- go out against China or someone else I know that I'm not completely.
Being left behind on the domestic front and I think that's really why you see so much push it.
From obviously the administration.
And the bipartisan people supporting the Lieberman -- senate.
All right -- I tell CEO of immunity joining us from Miami bureau that's a fascinating subject and we will be back to it -- many times.
In the future I think thank you very much indeed -- Thank you all right now.
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