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Where does the 2012 race stand?

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We are about seven months away now from Election Day and we're seeing a tough battle ahead for.

Both President Obama Mitt Romney -- latest Fox News pulling their data showing the two candidates are neck and neck right now meanwhile.

The president's job approval -- ticked up a bit.

Over the last two weeks now at the 50% mark that's a Gallup poll.

And take a look at this the Wall Street Journal's editorial board weighed in on a tight race.

Mitt Romney hasn't even money chance to become America's 45 president there right.

He's more likely to fulfill that ambition -- -- overcomes his cautious nature and runs a campaign that is equal to America's.

Current political moment to win the White House he'll need to show a larger vision.

And the nerve to pursue it.

What about that let's bring in our campaign insiders dobbs show on Fox News contributor former pollster for Bill Clinton.

-- LT to a Fox News contributor and a former pollster president Jimmy Carter John the bouquets of former Republican congressman.

For New York gentlemen good to have you back -- let me start we -- you.

Bottom what does -- mean does that mean do editorial that Romney's got a -- -- -- Guy he's got to be bold specific -- have a vision.

Right now with the president's approval -- get 50%.

In the race tied the American people are basically split.

But a recent Fox News poll showed 61%.

Say Obama didn't have a jobs plan or an economic plan.

58% said the same for Romney.

So what the voters are saying in the wall street journal editorial board is responding to.

Is a desire in the American electorate.

For a clear plan clear ideas amid deep seeded skeptics give us something specific that precisely exactly and in the you know what I have to say about it portal.

Was good a political memo cited seen in awhile I collect.

In terms of what it argued because it's stood back and said here's is what would you put up on the you know on the screen right which is we -- a political moment.

This is a jump ball somebody's gotta have something they can argue other than the other guy is bad.

And what they were arguing for Romney is what he needs to do and it's the same problem the president has when you're when you're in trouble like this -- and understand one thing Greg it's important.

We keep these two polls.

The president's rating is at 50%.

Vs being at 45%.

For instance.

That you know what that is seen gigantic difference on both ends of that a little five points but 80% of the time -- president win or lose you're.

Let's put up the Gallup -- because there it is but look I mean.

That's ticking upward from basically even.

Yeah not nervous you know over what a week that's the distance I'm talking about right that is where the election hangs.

Because -- a 50% level.

He's more like the elected if the 46 he's more likely lose it and that's about congressman the other subtitled that Gallup poll was independents vote preferences -- shifted.

Toward Obama independents -- to me this is what I just patent dog hit on us repeatedly on our show which is.

The first guy who's gonna offer a positive vision specifics.

I'm gonna do this on day one I'm -- to do this to change this.

And so just trashing the other guy tell us why I should vote for you and if if Romney were to do that he's got time to do it.

He could still take the selection he can win this election if he.

Does what Reagan did and come out with a positive plan that he believes in and tries to sell but right now -- -- the other guy -- -- -- let me play the latest Obama -- quite controversial.

Nicholas.

It's one -- George Bush said it was right the president is the decider in chief.

Nobody can make a decision -- Look he knew what would happen all -- Navy SEALs on in there and hadn't been in line.

Suppose they've been captured killed.

The downside I would have been horrible.

On a Clinton Romney would have taken out Osama bin Laden I think that that's a political mistake it.

Effectively lowers the office of the presidency.

To do that I also think Romney -- A huge opportunity grade himself.

To embrace the success of the rape and sentenced -- president why are we doing this I think both of them.

Frankly have missed real opportunities to elevate.

After the one year anniversary you can OK let me tell you just historical context -- look at the -- the president is -- reminds you John Kerry running as a hero.

You -- you don't need to do that went on the one Romney -- -- just said -- which is important and engage.

Think back to the -- -- debate from Ronald Reagan loss ever lost the fight against Walter Mondale.

In the first debate you don't want.

Want Walter -- did he got up and praised the president's totally -- Reagan and the NN's Rick Reagan was -- wasn't it was befuddled voters loved it.

Here was that means attack dog Mondale saying thank you Mr.

President if Romney -- -- -- -- saying.

Had said.

Mr.

President deserve great credit for this and by the way I think any American president I would hope would -- the right thing.

He would have gone up in voters might do what you think John I mean I think that he would look more presidential if he'd act like -- president on this one robbed him talking about.

Makes Obama look.

Small.

He was behaving that were trying to exploit because yeah.

Is your problem should -- -- -- we've discussed this before these the teams around the these candidates the president and -- They are so -- one up's been shipping get the that they cannot step back and see in the larger.

Mosaic of a narrative here all right my appearance.

Here's the one ups man ship -- -- be -- here to Mitt Romney so let's see here are some of his remarks this week.

Americans have always been eternal optimists.

But over the last three and a half years we've seen hopes and dreams diminished by false promises.

And weak leadership to all of you.

I have a simple message.

Hold on a little longer.

A better America begins tonight.

Okay.

It's still about the economy.

And we are not stupid.

-- -- -- -- in this disease that speech yet I wonder why.

Well I think it's.

That speech is a lot of the speech is it came before.

Weren't so great there is the beginning not focusing on Newt Gingrich -- in right you know beginning the beginning of -- vision I think that's right.

But as the excerpts you played suggested the whole speech similarly.

It's just the outlines of where he intends to go combined with some negativity on the present he hasn't done.

What patent John were both suggested Greg.

Which is to get into the specifics.

Of where he's -- lead America.

What he's gonna do and what our hope is for the future I don't think he's done that now he has it in right -- -- the time you need to do it not six months from now five.

-- afraid you know and I because I think what what happened recently -- -- a private fund raiser who Romney and at the fund raiser that was supposed to be no press there.

He said I'm gonna consolidate agencies is -- -- the close sundown and give other details and it leaked out and the Obama campaign jumped on him.

And I have a feeling the Romney team is deathly afraid they are making a huge mistake I -- it but I thought that owner.

Tell you one of the reasons that Reagan who was viewed as a very risky person have high negatives.

In the spring of 1981 of the reasons he won this because he's embraced Kemp Roth.

Suddenly this man -- was you'll those men running for president.

Haven't -- rupiah about what to do with the economy supply side economics with -- you'll like it or not and boy -- -- we attacked him with -- -- economic.

All about the Carter side bush -- primaries.

But he had something to make a case for so besides all of his conservative convictions.

He had something help Romney needs this Romney needs the ability to go out and -- out three.

Reports speech is -- who takes some restless to the extent ladies laid out attack this we'll have -- -- getting criticized dogma that tax policy sinners favoring the rich -- gonna hang that around his neck.

But that's right and he's had a couple of tax plans he sort of flip flopped on whether he wants to.

Raise taxes on those over 200000 are exempt them from his tax cuts so he hasn't been coherent but what part was suggesting is really it.

There isn't a specific.

Plan -- vision like.

Herman cain's 999.

We don't have a sense as to what Mitt Romney's good to do on day one and I think he -- anything.

59 point plan to announce yeah primary are not not not not if you -- nine points he should call -- it was zero out of formula criticizing.

Congressman -- -- had to revise -- began to -- a little bit and talk about specific tax rates that he would suggest.

The asymptomatic thing -- -- he needs systematic approaches here -- some of things I would do.

But here is the message of how America will change -- dale -- why is he not doing it.

I think it's his nature I think the guys nature is not to put new ideas he always goes -- what I at -- now there's something else -- I think I think.

What is going on -- is advises saying look with a poll numbers we were talking about before this is a 5050 election.

The economy's getting weaker we don't have to take.

The risks that are involved in putting out a plan being criticized as you say.

Offense will work to our advantage.

We can win with us magazine it's not what I would do it's not -- -- seven months but no -- saying do beyond the on the defense to wait for bench resting your hope we have a chance events may work for it.

Which you have few more resolute -- Since then -- will be leaving the race may be into the ordinances.

During his campaign when he was at his best he was saying when he would you date one -- three after the election it was him you mean people may not like solid.

But -- it's have a dramatic.

And right -- -- we.