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Felt a man who ran the CIA interrogation program lashing out at critics have -- hands techniques like waterboarding.
Jose Rodriguez retired from the CIA says the program provided valuable intelligence.
From high profile detainees.
Curious on sixty minutes was asked about how President Obama believes waterboarding is torture.
President Obama is entitled to his opinion when President Obama -- and dance.
The Covert action activities of three previous government he is the -- the covenant.
Intelligence officers who are at the pointy end of -- -- hanging way out there and the government that authorized them and directed them.
The goal there there was a whole lot to go over this next interview retired four star general Jack Keane is a -- military analyst general good morning to you from Los Angeles today for more what a fascinating program this was last night what do you think about his view.
-- on the Obama administration retiring these techniques and essentially tying the hands of the CIA officers were trying to do this work.
-- it's tough to look at eleven years later I mean if you're it if you are there and issues of the people who deal with the situation.
Right after the 9/11.
An unbelievably brilliant successful attack by the al-Qaeda.
On of people killing 3000 that it is personal for me had 85 teammates killed and an attendance 61 funerals.
And I also felt that emotion you -- -- -- -- -- I think why.
The administration and the Central Intelligence Agency.
Thinking that -- another attack was imminent and possibly.
And they knowing that they had people in their grips who could give them information that they were trying to do all the most sophisticated techniques to get that information.
My judgment is this as a matter of principle certainly no torture that's against.
The morals and values of the United States but the exception should be.
The president the United States given the circumstance given the situation given that dire threat to the American people.
He should have a province.
Where he can authorize certain techniques mostly psychological I would say to overwhelm the capacity of up.
A detainee -- president we have to give us valuable information the million.
Actually prevent a disaster situation from.
And that's essentially what that that's a very little in his situation essentially what he said last night too and how this is invaluable -- -- when asked about drone strikes that campaigns currently under way.
We don't capture anybody anymore.
Honestly I think you know -- there.
Default option of this administration has has been to kill prisoners.
Take no prisoners the -- the drones.
How couldn't be more ethical.
To kill people.
President captured enough never understood -- what what about that general.
While it's true I mean that the fact of the matter is.
We have tremendous reluctance to put people on the ground.
We have had this confrontation with Pakistan since nine elevenths.
Simply this they will open up the -- us to conduct drone attacks.
Didn't in their country but they do not want us to put people on the ground that would lead to the captured obviously the Central Intelligence Agency and other.
Elements of our government.
What actually you.
Want to do both.
And the reason is simply that as as mr.
Rodriguez suggests is that if we were able to capture people we would get far more information about the network.
Which would lead to the collapse of that network and it would not do without doing that because we do not want to violate the sovereignty approximate fundamentally think that policy is wrong.
But that's where we are -- -- what do you think or or did waterboarding in your view.
Lead did the discovery to finding to capturing the killing of Osama -- line.
I really don't know be quite honest about it -- -- not on radio reports just like like you you do -- I would.
The the leaders who say that.
That kind of interrogation technique.
Particularly KS them and the information they got from him.
Prevented subsequent attacks.
Whether it led actually to the capture of bin Laden.
I don't think so I think.
Well let that -- -- the killing of bin Laden excuse me -- to capture him was a counter terrorist unit and the analysts who were on that target for ten years and got to know everybody.
Who was secondary and tertiary to him and they were able to track that would eventually led them to that target -- -- that is one of the most masterful intelligence operations we've -- conducted.
One year ago tomorrow.
General thank you Jack came from Los Angeles he got view.
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