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What it means for the attorney general and the White House if Congress forces the release of info in 'Fast and Furious' case
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Now contempt.
House Republicans turning up the heat on attorney general Eric Holder biggest -- one step closer to holding him in contempt of congress.
Now the house oversight and Government Reform Committee has already -- -- 46 page contempt citation.
And it accusing it turning general stonewalling over operation fast and furious -- Jason -- it's joins us Canadians there.
-- -- -- -- Nice to see are the draft is 46 pages.
How serious is this is this sort of savor rally in or should the attorney general -- -- Begin figured out ways to comply or is this is gonna have.
-- or is this gonna really land on his lap.
Only a handful -- times in the history of the house that we had to go so far is that.
Actually hold somebody contempt of congress but.
A subpoena that was issued in October of 2011.
Has been totally ignored.
They're 22 categories of documents that were looking for twelve of those -- categories we've received zero documents it's a very serious stuff but -- got -- we've got a dead Border Patrol agent you have the Department of Justice who is knowingly lied to congress.
-- we have 300.
People dead in Mexico on the other -- of these fast and furious guns we have thousands of weapons knowingly given to.
The drug cartels -- it doesn't get much more serious than this -- What take a subpoena -- court you don't comply you know you end up -- -- in the hot -- get called of the court right away and the -- good -- -- but jealous of -- -- comply if you with it if you don't get if you get a subpoena from congress it seems still linger and go on for months and months and months and months.
I'm curious -- yet -- let's let's jump ahead percent of supposing you do hold him in contempt.
What does that really mean.
Well it means that they're gonna have to provide the documents what we're trying to do is that determine.
How is it that the Department of Justice in their own words -- -- the program that was fatally flawed why is it that the -- department agency had discussions absolutely failed and we got to remember at the heart of -- -- we have a dead US Border Patrol agent.
That when he was on the receiving end of that weapon from -- -- -- he'd -- And I got -- look that Brian -- family in the face and say we did everything we could to figure out why this will.
What how this happened and make sure that it never ever happens again the Democrats just wanna play politics where they say were out there just try out a witch -- Nothing is further from the truth they should be lock and -- with us.
And holding some people accountable the president I'm -- a 25 of 2011 said he was gonna hold somebody accountable.
Nobody's been fired there at the senior levels of the Department of Justice these people are getting promotions are -- stuff got a promotion come -- that's not right.
Well okay -- in a fast rate does documents and has -- a daunting task but if if I were.
Spending not that committee and always asked to -- I'd ask two questions.
Who authorized fast and furious -- -- toppers to authorize it.
And who knew about it how high up those two questions I'd -- those two answers.
And primarily because if the person who is who -- who authorized it and the people who knew about it are still there.
There -- -- that they're showing other really bad judgment in many to be transfered out maybe -- the GSA I don't know where but transferred -- so we don't need them making really bad decisions I shouldn't be sarcastic about.
But why not just those two questions who authorized it and how high up.
Well that is the core of the question that we asked within the subpoena and these twelve categories in which we had no information the only thing I -- On top of that I think it's critical is the communication with the White House White House is denied any involvement.
Then we actually found an email that went from an ATF agent -- -- the White House and they -- that.
That's president -- okay yeah.
Exactly because I do think the White House is have been involved because whistle blowers who given us the bulk of the information that we do have have stepped up and provided this information and so they have 80000 documents that the FIG within the Department of Justice is looking out.
The congress should be looking at -- you can't just ignore a subpoena.
What's the I think those two questions -- USA -- -- Reza how dry up -- -- offers and who -- who at the White House may have -- the two key questions.
And I do not understand now why haven't gotten -- -- What what is -- responses to why you have not gotten the answers to those two questions to kind of -- city they've been asked.
Well we have been asked we've been patient again the subpoena was issued in October I think we've always execution we did.
Well they sell or Iran or with China all what they're doing an investigation we're not trying to pry into the investigation that they're doing up some of these people that committed these crimes.
We're doing an investigation of the department of justice and you could see why were at an impasse for sake.
We as a separate branch of government deserve and need these documents and that is why we have the constitution that's why we're set up a separate branches.
But also why you have to apply to.
Think you know replied to to a subpoena and.
And I think you're missing that he I had I think the strongest argument -- -- is that this is very bad judgment everybody agrees with -- even attorney -- the United States agrees with whoever authorized it.
Whoever -- it may still be floating around the government that's the problem that's we need to know who authorized it and how live because Jefferson really needs to meet to move out so that that person is now at risk of -- and other bad judgment and that's why not right now if that person still there.
But and that's they -- and that's your most powerful argument as to why you need it now.
Exactly goes to the White House goes to Gary gray Larry is that the chief of staff -- Lanny -- the chief of the of the act criminal division.
Lady -- actually had the documents related to -- curious he forwarded them from his firm is Department of Justice email account.
To his own Gmail account many testified before congress he had no idea what was going -- And the letter that was issued to congress on February 4 which was a lie they had to reset -- lied to congress on February 4 on that same day Lanny brewer was in Mexico talking about gun running and so little for the White House and Department of Justice to deny that they ever use these type -- -- Tactics is an outright lie you can not -- to congress and not have a consequence.
Is speaker Boehner I'm bored if the attorney judge doesn't comply with your subpoenas.
One step at a time Greta the next step is to hub power play again Andy remarked I have to -- that you cannot.
That's crystal clear however we can't -- he has not made that final determination it needs to go through the committee process then it goes to the hands of the speaker and he did make a determination and the timing as to whether or not to bring this up to the floor of the house for problem.
Highway elect get ran out times like cancer and keep best in the same question try to get Nancy -- -- on -- -- president bank except.
