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Fox Business host John Stossel tells Alan why he believes we should not rely on the government to solve our problems.
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Welcome John Stossel.
The new book is no they can't through third book what do you do these books because.
-- TV's not enough for you.
-- Plus after years of thinking like you do like and finally -- -- -- and a half beauty of free market yet and I wanna devote my life this year England who don't have racing interesting interestingly as the years have to think like we -- you a liberal at one time.
I was trained at Princeton socialism was the basic -- structure there I was taught that government would fix poverty.
And what change you -- to -- when did you start becoming libertarian I watched government try to fix poverty I want government trying to make.
Free markets better with regulation -- watched that fail as a reporter Portland Oregon consumer reporter.
And I search around for something else I discovered a reason magazine that.
-- -- mark was this a slow evolution on your part where you gradually became.
More and more of our free market non government guy -- -- this is like an epiphany that happened just.
No it was slow -- stupid -- than many of your libertarian listeners who've got who just instinctively understand it so you.
You haven't do you have antipathy active antipathy for government to come out that way -- -- -- it's not all bad.
No we need some limited government.
The worst places deliver the places that don't have rule of law being African country where you're afraid to build a factory this year.
The dictator may take the factory your -- your -- -- that line.
I struggle on keeping the peace and having pollution rules in a minimal safety net and yes I have and here.
Real antagonism.
Antipathy.
Yeah -- most of what government does these days and they keep adding more garbage it's almost more more more more -- W talk about the food police right.
There really is a -- -- definitely telling you what do you think simply saying -- -- to be good guideline -- -- we've done some research we kinda know how you can might.
Be better for yourself and your family and -- some health costs of you do -- players not mandate.
In some cases that's true -- you're right there's a cost of that but it's minor.
But they sometimes make you you try selling raw milk to people and they will come into your store with guns drawn as they did in Los Angeles in New York it's -- -- you there for you.
There eat trans -- itself for it.
Yeah now and you would have no none of these regulations what's no no safety regularly.
Well some if the job of government the keeper persons safe but at the free market would handle almost all -- -- -- -- And he obviously needs the stimulus you -- that.
The president money is taken from them -- -- the government doesn't just.
Vomit money and people and create well their taxes we have to -- -- we -- pay taxes we should pay taxes for the government weenie.
But you repay too many taxes -- -- you -- have a flat tax or a symbol that some kind of simple.
You talk about the government schools.
Why do you insist on calling it the government's -- is that the -- inferences it's you know Big Brother putting much into our heads.
Government -- as as I present this public school stuff like with the great melting pot in the public -- all together.
Their public schools government schools are more segregated than private schools and in a private supermarket I can walk in point 47.
And stops she easily accessible to any members of public -- walking in here it public school.
Probably -- Did you go to public school.
I didn't feel a couple of new career high school -- literally turned out it takes years for the use socialists the -- -- incentives -- wrong.
Took the Soviet Union seventy years to fail you think today's Democrats really socialists.
In the -- -- they don't want that most don't want to own them.
The means of production I've read that Newsweek cover were all socialists -- was pretty close they -- want more government.
That's piecemeal socialism and it makes his poor you -- Republican as much as Democrats -- for Democrats.
Just read more about bush was awful he added thousands of new regulators.
He and Obama have more than doubled spending since Clinton if we could just go back to Clinton's -- That you'd be happy with Bill Clinton -- present.
Well how are you happy with -- spending -- via 18% GDP.
This is a cheaper -- you think that the America -- disabilities act -- -- that you're disabled people and been able to work suddenly you think most people.
Want to take government -- want government will lie about their well being for the sake of being on the bill.
I lost the -- your question the reason they don't have work is not because of lying about the -- You say since America -- disabilities -- -- -- effect -- just evil people.
Have been able to work and I wonder if you're suggesting that.
Well they really could work but because they could get this help.
They are totally you know I'm -- some people but yet.
50% of the disabled -- in the workplace win.
Al Gore proposed the law and George Bush senior signed it it's great we're gonna do you want to discriminate against the disabled more will -- Now it's thirty states going down because in the name of helping people.
By both parties.
You make them dangerous on the starter I qualifier and that the law -- the eighty existed where I start.
Who would somebody of hired me knowing that might cost them hundreds of thousands of dollars to -- didn't work out -- I would assume government at the idea.
I don't think so.
I wouldn't be here talk of the EU I doubt that particular group where you -- in Portland you were to New York Q what why hire a stutter I -- with the starter that they'll give you change.
That you negated under country think today -- know we can't take a chance of Alaska and why else would go from fifty to 38% the employers say it's.
It's just hired those disabled people because we can't afford the dog and every device and can change but you yours yours driving it to something that fits in with -- world -- Which is can -- Using -- constantly and I have did as a negative.
Government research and development there be no Internet without the government.
Without NASA would be a whole range.
But things -- would use you support are indeed you support and the things victory.
Parts of our lives that we would never have without the government.
Okay we got the Internet from.
Defense Department search -- and so few examples of that and all that was with no again.
All the consumer stuff that's -- -- came from the private sector.
Maybe some basic medical research some National Science Foundation but on the day my seven year old brother his -- and I -- I was talking to a guy with saint you know the government gives a mostly the seventy year old.
Innovation -- for 25 Euro.
Yeah it's clumsy and stupid.
I'm just saying that there's lot of that the government does that often gets negated by those.
Like yourself who don't you know one little government is possible without those programs we wouldn't have so many things we take progress.
Fair enough but three point eight trillion dollars we need to spend that when we're going broke -- I like the party book we've talked about you have this growth throughout the book went into action tempts us to believe in what reality taught me.
What are some of -- he examples -- They've been the most meaningful of those do you where you would think -- you believe one thing because it makes sense you find out that it's really not that -- Point animal -- -- -- and -- alligators and other such happened or when there's a manager but I mean idea.
Yet making sure no one gets offended the free speech rules intuitive that he got to have a nice work place and have some rules about.
Speech he speech but.
And -- can be trusted to do.
Or education that government needs to run education but that's a government monopoly -- give you missed that for bond to the Soviet you know every child be guaranteed.
And education.
By the government yeah.
Well how he -- who else would guarantee if we had 2% taxes there.
Make my world would give us America would be so rich private charities would offer far better options to every porch.
But let's say if there's no guarantee for education would you have a cute kids who might -- -- get educated.
Parents wouldn't send them -- rebel -- be all kinds reasons why we have a whole uneducated -- in this.
I don't think parents of that stupid and some chose not to educate their children that should be -- right they should hold their own line really.
One of the great pay great tenets of our country's always been.
A full education system the opportunity I know that and we don't have that.
Even got garbage we have triple the spending.
Twelve how prepared were spending almost 300 -- per classroom and half the kids don't -- let's say your numbers -- -- correct.
Could we do it still guarantee an education without spending on like dynamite but make sure every -- -- educating.
I think in a free world and 1989 point 9% of the kids that get a better education for your right.
Some would fall through the cracks but more fall through the cracks now.
-- -- -- -- -- -- It was back in Ghana -- make it sound that bad in -- camp -- some bad moments via.
And they they really can't I mean you really felt like if -- what -- -- because.
Is that the news is that liberal and these network.
I was the only guy with an opinion in the building it's -- that it would radio but when Peter Jennings -- -- in -- he would do one of these -- Really turns out anyway he went -- nothing to do it via.
Will he be fired act really propose they be fired because I was embarrassing ABC news of my lack of objectivity.
Is that what we supposed to be objective -- there is a consumer reporter to make sure to give your opinion to make sure that people knew you were informed.
Which -- informed opinion.
As I was giving my -- consumer reporter but nobody called me a bad guy until -- started turning that same.
Point of view against big government.
Then -- I was not objective and evil.
And I -- to winning Emmy Awards that I read when an amused that you came -- -- today than you that your.
I said that yeah I mean I was I was not recruited.
Parks are painted as I batted really well I mean an end is drawing -- Yeah like beg to keep my idea here -- -- -- you know and the reason.
The look at culled no they can't why government fails but individuals succeed John -- thank you very much -- and thank you here.
