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I -- new American jobs still coming back at a snail's pace the country.

Adding only -- 1151000.

Jobs in the month of April bringing the unemployment rate down slightly.

To eight point 1% that's got both the president and Republican candidate Mitt Romney speaking out.

One million jobs in the last six months -- so that's the good news but.

There's a lot of folks out of work which means that we've got to do more.

If you're gonna recover all the jobs were lost during -- recession.

Just this morning there was some news that came across the wires that said that the unemployment rate has dropped -- eight point 1%.

And normally that would be cause for celebration.

But in fact if anything over 8% anything near 8% -- over 4% is not cause for celebration.

-- over 4%.

Does anybody remember that we'll talk about a let's bring in our campaign insiders Doug -- Fox News contributor and former pollster for Bill Clinton.

-- to -- he to a Fox News contributor former pollster for president Jimmy Carter John -- -- DA is a former Republican congressman form.

For new York and you were shaking your head here.

Now as the president was Shockey was bragging about those numbers that came out on Friday when most economists thought they were abysmal numbers.

He's selling it.

Well I mean he's doing I guess the best he can do with the bad product and what what what what I think is that this thing is affecting both campaigns heavily on all three of us have our own opinions about it.

That in Romney's case because these numbers are bad.

Romney now believes he can win this election by just letting the economy take Obama down.

And that may happen when.

You know -- five trillion in it it dollars in debt has been racked up.

By President Obama high gas prices high unemployment anemic GDP can -- run on his record.

Well so far they're not I mean he's he keeps saying -- his hope for.

When he said the -- and when he said when -- -- LC of the yesterday the or in his first campaign speeches.

The president said didn't ask you are you better off you were four years ago would you be better off the question must ask will -- be better off for years from now.

Look this unemployment numbers are really bad because remember the eight point one drop Greg is because 360000.

PA lot.

Gave up war what would.

We're looking for work the real you know here's the point to nine point significant enough so far a narrative has not been established -- mean Republican Party hasn't.

Which is if you take to the level of participation in the work force that was the same people with the same today as it was from the president moves took office.

Unemployment would be 11%.

You know Doug I'm not sure the overall number of eight point 1% matters as much as the trend at Brookline and it began actually when it peaked above 10%.

And now it's dropped two percentage points down eight point one.

Leading economists say it's gonna go to seven point nine the trend is in -- -- city.

It is and Pat's exactly right in saying that the real economic numbers are much worse but the slogan that he's using is for work which doesn't mean a hell of a lot but it means that he is going.

To try to create a contrast between failed policies of the past.

And an approach that he will say has begun.

To produce it -- we've never seen a president of the United States announce his canned candidacy for re election.

And in his first speech he spent the whole speech trashing his opponent not bragging or talking or.

Talking about his own record and what -- do in the future -- all -- of that you talk about slogans here maybe Mitt Romney's got one we saw the open letter to President Obama that was published three days ago in which he said quote.

I have one question for you Mr.

President where are the jobs is that he is campaign slogan.

It's.

Pretty anemic -- it is time personally I mean I think because I mean you can do better that I he has already Greg.

Yes thank you expected our show.

The it is I mean that just looks like something concocted.

Inside their political thing and we -- right to this letter and asked questions.

No he should be trumpeting.

What he's going to do he should be arguing more than anything we can make that we don't have to accept this mediocre situation.

I have a planet.

To that point.

Pat's exactly right there isn't a Republican narrative much less a plan for what they're going to do different.

Other than run against Obama.

It may be sufficient.

But at this point that's an open quite right I wanna I wanna switch topics -- a foreign affairs and even though gentlemen I'm very skeptical that anybody steps into -- voting Booth and votes based on foreign policy.

-- we have some big events happening especially today with Greece in particular and France election right.

Two things with the French election going as it did the Romney campaign will say you can just run against an incumbent and win.

And with a -- election.

With the far left -- a party finishing second in the two major parties under 40% combined.

What Obama will say is I got to protect my left flank and in Europe and the center is folding big parties are collapse -- Absolutely and this is a big deal because we don't have a we you -- because we have only two parties.

We don't have any other options here in the selection.

The -- -- clear trend against incumbents in Europe is very great.

But also the instinct for.

We don't wanna give up hope we have in the left but to -- they don't write -- shall see is the president saying stay with the populism -- -- the -- -- and and I'm afraid the Romney campaign to that extent to -- right will also go rules say and I think that's a mistake.

But I I think to the Republicans will go on say hey it will destroy against the the -- will we congressman.

President Obama made a surprise visit to Afghanistan.

Signed a strategic partnership agreement with Karzai.

That extends our presence there -- -- the withdrawal 2014 for ten years 2024 take a look at the latest Rasmussen poll put it up on the screen.

Majority of Americans favor getting out 56.

To 31%.

To what extent if -- old disease really help his re election.

-- I mean I think that.

He sees this issue again this week on the anniversary of bin Laden and went over there for the surprise visit I have a feeling this cynicism among the American people -- pretty high about how much they believe.

This trip was necessary or the agreement is any good I think the majority of people.

Want to Begin getting out as soon as possible at and politically fiber of the Mitt Romney came.

I would look at this crucial bloc of votes that Ron Paul house.

Who were sitting there they're not enthusiastic for Romney they don't like Obama.

And I'd be thinking I want those votes in November and I want to put out signals that I will accelerate the departure from Afghans.

-- you know we talked about a last week the president -- some heat for the political ad in which he arguably exploits the killing of bin Laden.

For political purposes here's what Romney said take -- listen.

You would have given the order governor.

-- -- Well even Jimmy Carter we've given that -- that was not an accident old you know.

I stated it was a bad mistake because it was planned it was planned an -- -- is -- that it's bad because he missed the opportunity.

To unite the country all -- support for the president and to demonstrate that he's a leader.

And he has a vision and a sense of the whole country is by being partisan about a man who authorized.

A raid that failed sadly who was a naval veteran for ten years it just cheapens the whole process and -- all -- and let me just -- political.

Yeah I mean and -- I don't know citizens -- worked for him for President Carter returned it was proud of it.

But when it.

He's popularity skyrocketed his post presence -- her and think of this great this is what I mean about Sharkey politics of both camp right -- each other.

-- -- you're the only people who care about that Carter comment.

-- Republican base folders you better be voting ironic turn anybody over the age of anyone over the age of fifty under the age of pitcher.

Wasn't an adult when Jimmy Carter was president that was 32 years ago and none of the independents or Democrats -- need to win our appeal to buy dot kind of Sharkey.

Our viewers ought to know that what goes on in a presidential any campaign really nowadays the staff sits around every day yet.

Dreaming up one line somebody came up that line they came up they gave it to him my cell phone is up and a half so here's what when the press asked you -- -- would and they might even plant the question to get the answer out trying to.