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Dave Aitel, CEO of Immunity Inc, talks about a bill focused squarely on 'critical infrastructure' companies and their cyber security standards
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All right we're gonna move across the country go south -- down to Miami where they've -- insiders say a little cool we have but.
Dave I tell there Dave I would -- parents continue with the same topic here about the whole.
Cyber security standards and I mentioned it in passing to Jason and I'm sure you heard him just a moment ago lives up in Seattle.
About how the NSA is building this massive and people home that is the NSA basically watches over threats that they can come towards you -- But this this NSA facility that's being built in -- -- absolutely huge and I -- the year here to talk about that situation talk about how the whole federal cyber security standards are what people home should should should matter and why should they care.
Well certainly I -- I used to work for the NSA and huge by their standards tends to be colossal by anyone else's standards.
But that's true -- I mean is actually quite a very -- -- drama going on right now from 90000 and her who is the director of the NSA.
And of course a general.
And John McCain who's in the senate right now trying to fight the administration's cyber security act of 2012 bill.
Which is sort of sponsored by Lieberman.
So you've got of their -- setting these letters back and forth quite test the way and it's really anything to read their different perspectives on the on the positions that they have.
Now of course I have for you is it.
I was and these notes on this -- and actually familiar with the story a bit.
For somebody at home who again.
Has kids.
Right now may be a work has the show going on why does this matter to them I mean really mean for us -- that we do follow the industry a little bit more it's it's interesting.
But for somebody is kind of not really someone who follows this stuff closely why -- why should they care about this this possible legislation.
Well -- two really good reasons the first one is jobs.
Now the only reason says the past which is the house version of -- these bills is because they came out they said very explicitly.
Your jobs are going to China because China stealing our intellectual property and are doing on a massive scale and -- really is no way to compete.
Without some sort of information sharing within the government -- private industry.
So that's the very first segment of these bills.
And of course the second segment of the bills is a very real and palpable threat.
You'll wake up one day and another country will -- United States if you don't act the way we want you act we're going to turn off your power.
And that is the -- Main thrust of Lieberman belt and so if you have these two very realistic threats one of them as economic and one of them is sort of very military and physical.
And their combined together and and these bills are essentially trying to make this not happened to -- and these are these -- nightmare situations I think for anyone -- don't.
-- they are -- situations for anybody home and I think one of the obviously one of the criticisms as of the bill -- a bit vague.
At the same time they're people out there in that not trying to be doing stairs but September 11 of course was.
A moment that most of us who -- everybody alive of course whenever in the states will ever forget what happened still sits with us and in different ways.
But there are people out the -- argued that potentially.
If we don't control our our our Internet to Wear a watch our.
Basically blackmailed by just about anybody -- -- -- meet at a country could be a group of two or three hackers -- we seen what.
Some of these hacker groups have done even in the last year.
Well that's exactly -- and you know Jason was talking earlier about sort of different sort of situations where people are using bad passwords and stuff.
And that is an endemic problems with the companies that are running your local power your water your sewage.
That's where they are -- sort of stuck in the ninety's when it comes the security so the Lieberman bill really tries to take.
A position of regulation and applied to those companies kind of the same way the payment card industry does tears your basic credit card transactions.
So you're looking at them trying to solve the problem with regulation.
Or simply trying to solve the problem of you know we don't want we want to share more information maybe create a better defense very slowly.
And I've always believed that realistically here the best defense is a great offense and possibly one that's intimidating -- did.
But you never know what's gonna come out of these two -- Yet I know I want to get this little more consumer friendly cool and that's gonna move it over to Twitter in some of the hacking is -- the bugs that are out there and web sites.
Offer people -- home once again you one thing is kind of a connection there you talk about some of our local utilities and how.
They could potentially be hacked into -- -- could cause a problem with power water.
Com it's on a smaller scale the same thing as you -- home is simply put just having a bad.
Bad.
Password for example that -- -- can be done.
On a consumer level at the same thing happened on the government level so I want to ask you about the Twitter being about Twitter being hacked of course.
In the and that the wave that.
Explain to somebody in layman's terms how bug can be on a website or somebody's email because when they're trying to explain to my dad.
Is still open up his Gmail they'll call me that -- computer's not worker got all these things popping up he doesn't understand that even though he uses -- computer what you have to you know what.
How easy it is basically opened something up and had that didn't -- up on your computer and all of a sudden now you're being watched by somebody you don't want to be watched.
Well I think the key thing that your dad should know is that you really shouldn't put anything on Twitter or FaceBook that you don't want the whole world the -- And that's -- sort of a behavioral aspect that that people are gonna have to get used to you really don't have any privacy on the Internet.
Write it into my other thing is a whole email bugs on web -- situation and how do you know.
How do you know to what sets gonna be safe.
If you're gonna go there as somebody who's just maybe -- the -- -- -- -- eleven home you're you're looking you're shopping for cars whatever you do what how do you know what to look for his or something out there and it.
Kind of gives you.
The put delightful -- so to speak.
There really isn't when it comes with something at this level you know you should really assume that everything you're doing on the Internet is being watched by someone you don't like.
There's no little magic button that makes these web sites of care -- -- Twitter has some of the exact same very sophisticated problems that any big company will have.
And that could be something as simple as an employee that that's not trust that.
You know we have a lot of major financial clients they're constantly getting attacked and they have to institute very expensive very.
Very tough defense is on the inside and then learn how to deal with what happens when someone does break through those defense -- So this is not something where there's a simple answer for your dad it's really just don't do stuff on the Internet you don't want people say.
It's as simple change your password.
Make it they'll make it your name -- name of your dog and the same time.
No don't put any out there you don't want to be out there that's simple as an -- consumer level as walls -- government level.
-- right in Miami Dave I tell CEO of immunity -- -- -- again for your time off sure will be talking about this is gonna be topic it's not gonna go away anytime soon.
Definitely thank you.
Right they said.
