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I'm -- did the right to criticize them.
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Those -- extend -- the men and women of our armed forces who have committed themselves to protecting our country.
Former marine sergeant Gary Stein was discharged for being critical of President Obama.
Saying he wouldn't follow orders from the commander in chief Gary Stein joins me now Gary got lot of trouble for speaking your mind I would say so -- Nine years in the Marines and you posted some things.
I guess did.
Not only on FaceBook but in a private chat room yes and a private group and and you thought that this was just going -- -- a few people someone took a screen shot in and and kind of -- and little trouble -- of those races as an active duty marine I say screw Obama and I will not follow all orders from that.
We'll do my job better than the next guy but has has for saluting Obama's commander in chief I -- I can see that might get him a little trouble with the Marine Corps and I would agree that the words there are are somewhat tasteless and I try to think muscles articulate person and not bring those words on the hasn't heated debates when I follows a private somewhat private group.
And as I know -- -- on FaceBook now yes.
As a lot of people find out from employers and from college entrance things but in this case it was it a real career Ender for you because that Marine Corps.
I guess it's it's not and -- sorrow but I and other than honorable discharge what what really does that mean when they.
When they wouldn't say your you're dismissed.
Well not only had about six it is up to my contract stimulus like -- and knowledge from Venus.
You know Marine Corps sergeant drew in a very important job.
Having full benefits to sixty days later after being -- out of Marine Corps.
No benefits so to speak but.
I get to keep some benefits is depends on how Levine looks at it.
Did you say these things because you really meant them are where they said heatedly I mean would you truly not salute the president if he were to walk in the room.
I said that -- and I -- fewer walked in the room and housing and for my own I was -- out of each other respect the office has but.
As far as the policies and is coming from Gary -- the American citizen I'm not -- -- the policies and at some point -- had -- -- have to and I have to live with the policies he sets forth in his administration.
One of the questions that obviously would come forth is that.
When you join the military you -- -- give up a lot of rights what you Wear what time you wake up in the morning when you go to bed at night what you eat where you live all those -- somebody else decides for you.
It's a military ever became a democracy where people voted on the orders it would be chaos and and other.
Disaster so do you understand where the Marine Corps comes from men saying you know -- it's one thing to have an opinion but you just don't get to express it.
-- -- but that uniform on.
I disagree with that -- -- because.
That's not what the constitution says and that's not what -- to contract we signed says I believe there are a couple of -- of -- can't talk about when talking really can't talk about.
-- -- -- -- -- -- Or are things like battered or treason but me talking about policy set forth by our government is not hindering anybody and hindering Howard defending our nation.
They say that this was a violation of marine code do you argue that point I would you argue that point and and.
The common that I mean was the basis for the district missile but what really came back to -- armed forces -- part of the -- I started over two years ago at the Marine Corps knew about this as a songs would disclaimer up.
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But that that's what I came back to me running that page being -- this one refinement as traders on our founding and that's what.
Think they hammered on so debt that was a FaceBook page it was public -- public -- and and one that you helped co found.
But it it was not the one where you had the knots -- -- and equality -- just more about fiscal policy and things card interest rates free markets in a fiscal responsibility.
And -- and government.
I I know one of the champions on your causes the ACLU that it's an unlikely ally typically for a conservative Tea Party carrying kind of car -- -- person that just shows you how much this is crossing party lines how free speech doesn't.
Yet they still you who's that of counsel and I have that you -- justice foundation Gary create.
Who are doing all -- fund raising or doing you know all -- Elaine works so to speak.
For the -- to these two groups come together -- for one cause free speech is actually kind of amazing especially for Tea Party member -- Gary let me say this first -- -- I appreciate your service -- this country and -- -- for anybody to get -- How'd you know obviously it's one of those things when US sign of of the military you can yield over a whole lot of things.
This is going to be a case worth watching and and -- typically.
Do you have a rise in military.
To say things privately that you may not even carry out in terms of your duty -- that may be the question that has to be -- Clearly anyone of the military -- they don't like the orders has to carry them out.
And has to show respect to those above them.
That's part of the deal.
Gary will follow this case with great great interest it's -- really raises a lot more questions and then we can answer here.
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