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And it -- hit positions couldn't be more different.
-- he here's what's happening the Democratic Party needs to solidify it's base.
And the Biden.
To Obama set up on gay marriage and I think pat has something to say about this was part of a continuing to get there for two reasons because of money.
The need to get -- -- one in six of whom.
Are making up the -- of the Obama base and two with the George Clooney fund raiser they needed to be on the right side of that issue pat did the president hurt himself or help himself.
Always I think he's hurt himself because I don't think he's he's helped himself financial.
Because the -- big money in the gay community which a lot of was being held back to Doug said.
Congress fund raiser was there were problems there were lot of screaming going on that he hasn't come out I believe -- is -- does I don't know about you John probably was all orchestrated.
Because they needed them they.
-- -- -- -- -- No not Joba -- yeah I watched Joseph Biden that was no accident scene changes -- -- out it was pre planned and he said it.
That's just I just feel strongly that was a real.
Because it was all calculated I -- I don't know was calculate I think he or do they want to bring in an immediate damage.
They moved it to president movement because of financial concerns and because he went -- to the other reason.
Because for the first time he was getting a lot of flak from the regular political press that usually.
Saying that Biden's doing this he is and and I think he fell into it but you don't understand in swing states would voters and you look at the Gallup numbers.
There are lots of voters for whom were really upset this was a big additional war there -- dangers in the Democratic Party.
Among blue collar voters.
And -- more conservative Democrats who oppose gay marriage.
And for whom I've now been energized in some very -- Stay right John -- you're holding your hands what I think is the hit piece.
Many people think it's a hit piece on Mitt Romney.
Why a journalist in the Washington Post well I definitely -- -- -- get -- in here and use it we had the president announced -- for gay marriage on Wednesday.
Thursday on the online version the Washington Post this story about Romney's behavior pranks in high school came out and then on Friday.
The Washington Post which used to be the -- -- yeah this is where Watergate was expose this is where Vietnam the Pentagon -- all the stuff.
Here we have.
And in the newspaper business if you're above the fold you are the biggest story going and -- those of multiple pictures the -- -- And it goes over here and we have just an -- on we have 5500.
Words on Mitt Romney's behavior in boarding school which is not it is something that should be -- error on the president to order and help Mitt Romney your -- Romney shows what.
We Republicans have known long time.
Which is the so called mainstream press this the New York Times CBS solvent.
They are part of the Obama campaign -- an adjunct of the campaign.
This thing was set up by the Obama campaign they can -- their hands and -- almost the Washington Post but they're the ones who got it out there.
I want to put on the screen -- latest Gallup poll on same sex marriage 60% say Obama embrace of gay marriage makes no.
Difference but spots look at that 26% of that.
Let let let me play off that Pat's point was exactly right if you look at swing states and swing voters.
They will be influenced in an adverse way towards Obama.
By the embrace of gay marriage thirty states now have a constitutional.
On gay marriage seven of which are swing states and given what you were saying before about independence Greg.
This is going to be a double whammy the economy plus gay marriage well let's put -- up.
On the screen the real clear politics graphic battleground states with same sex marriage.
These these -- same sex marriage bands take a look at this.
What do you make of this -- seven of the eight states Obama leads Romney -- one state Colorado.
-- the president's embrace it gave marriage changed those numbers absolutely horrible wrong.
We will talk but North Carolina I think it takes North Carolina out of the game I think it takes Missouri out regional for.
With seventy some percent vote.
In the country's commitment mostly maintenance thing I'm telling you these states from behind the curve on the national poll -- -- -- anyway.
But I think you see key constituencies.
Going in the Gallup poll showed earlier what.
10% of Democrats so that we're not gonna vote for the president now because of this he's been running losing only about 4%.
Only 2% of Republicans -- moved independence to the ones that liberalism like the more importantly it energizes.
The conservative base right.
Romney doesn't have to do it.
But look at this Gallup poll congressmen.
Well overall 51%.
Of Americans support same sex -- Yeah that that that's just an overall number it doesn't get these meaning it's not meaningless and and it where we have to look though -- the key swing votes that are undecided.
That they these two guys just been talking about.
Farther people who were voting before this that announcement who're now gonna vote for Obama who weren't gonna vote for him before did.
And I don't -- -- many meaningless in the real world there has never been a gay marriage referendum that has passed one and if you look at Oklahoma.
And North Carolina 20%.
And North Carolina.
Voted against the present democratic primaries 40% West Virginia.
Right indicating that the Democratic Party there rap but I got asked this question is David Axelrod in any way.
Behind -- hit piece in the Washington I look I think you have to understand the way the press works in relation to the Obama campaign.
Which is that they are -- writers more than they are.
You know -- -- saying yes I'm saying they also brought up behind it.
I don't say actually brought person somebody's behind these things are not happening by -- but let me just tell you but the problem this is.
It is a challenge for Republicans have two things are not doing with the war.
And Romney came through to what is hot they don't know how to speak to Democrats yet to get -- the -- -- and there's a picture there.
In all the press it also plays in the -- he -- -- the -- thing.
The president looks like -- gay marriage does is he looks like he's a celebrity.
President who was for his.
Over educated very educated -- to a lot of college Democrats don't like since this is an opening Romney has not been able to exploit that may be able --
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