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We are lucky enough to be joined by John Sullivan who is assistant director of the watch -- -- -- accurate Northwestern University.
And he is hot opted to wane off a Pulitzer Prize so John first of all welcome and I have to say my first question is.
What was the first thing that was going to -- -- question that I can hope I can recall it it's a little bit of a lightning strike I think you're surprised to win.
Obviously a reporter hosts and their career that now to a story that's worthy enough to win.
So I think we're very excited about that.
And I think there's a little bit of -- you know that we.
Finally reached the pinnacle of our of our -- how does investigative reporting changing from at least what you saw on the beginning at the beginning of your career to.
I think investigative reporting has become much more team sport I think it used to be in at this kind of you have the image as the grizzled reporter.
Working by himself or herself.
Late into the night.
In hand and huge paper where you can get lost.
And and the daily shuffle.
And now today it's much more.
Well -- more marketed community newspapers rely on it to build audience surprise such as this be an ankle.
It takes a lot of passion.
And energy and you have to be willing to.
To do that and -- where you can be willing to get as if you're driven by something.
It's like trying to writing it's on a unique and -- and -- but you probably not gonna do it when you get a decent thing you really love your passion about the story.
Then I think that's when you're capable of doing the work.
I'll give you a bit of the softball question well there always be an apron -- it.
Yeah absolutely I mean I think in.
And today's society where the people with the knowledge and information about how things work.
Can turn that into.
A better life for themselves and for their families people are gonna have this appetite for investigative reporting.
I think the big question is are we gonna continue to do investigative reporting at the level that it needs to be done.
I think there's a lot of people interested in doing a lot of papers wanna do it and I think there's a lot of branding.
I I think because of the contraction of the business.
It still a question of whether we can find sustainable model that will allow the kind of resources that requires to do it.
Well John thank you so much for joining us and we wish -- -- that's -- thank you --
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