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    Obama: 'To our shame' Vietnam vets didn't always receive respect they deserved

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That place they're talking about was Vietnam war one.

One of the great tragedies -- American history and those of us -- protest of the war yesterday the president's state gave a -- monitor -- award posthumously to a Vietnam veteran.

In the course of that he said something that sort of hit home -- -- when he suggested that.

Might crowd who are against the war perhaps didn't treat people right the saying this the president.

This month will begin to mark the fiftieth anniversary and a -- Vietnam War.

A time when.

To our shame our veterans -- not always receive the respect.

And the thanks they deserved.

Mistake that must never be repeated.

I don't I don't agree to the president about that I mean there were some people -- and I war movement who did treat veterans badly that's true.

But as a as a group.

As a whole that the anti war movement which was huge millions and millions and millions of people.

Did not treat veterans that -- who treated very badly was the veterans administration didn't take care -- very well.

But it wasn't anti war movement that I think it for him.

And in.

Arafat and what gets hurt Obama -- -- -- good karma pres Obama for taking time out of his campaigning with towards phony Ricky Barnes and to sit down into something.

Really respect them.

We're respectful and he's backing up and maybe give the -- compliment without strong though what I think it's fantastic and -- stood up there's no contract once -- fantastic -- using is as of you know photo if you're thinking goes where's the anti war movement now you think about that group that -- just plagued bush.

He can't if he can't say that about the movement now because.

They aren't anywhere.

It's like it's like the green movement with the BP spell it and I don't get it out or if it's there that Vietnam War movement was millions and tens of millions of people.

It was not.

Your Occupy Wall Street it was huge and when it started -- start with some people who were off campuses.

By the time -- -- -- finally reached its fulfillment it was people from the suburbs whose kids were getting killed him in and his -- disgraceful war there was.

Bill formalize what I think you can disagree with the war but I I do think you can't disagree with the way that.

Our troops are treated by some people and I do -- -- adopt a Obama did the right thing it wasn't just the people that -- on our troops it's Hollywood.

That some house for pet although the movie edited Vietnam vets are crazy.

Platoon yeah taxi driver Robert De Niro he's crazy some Psycho meet the constructs put in place by -- by Kerry by Oliver Stone.

-- hurt our veterans.

Justin on the politics of this of this particular speech yesterday because -- -- -- as I read it that.

The sentence that we've that the sound like everybody you can actually taken that out of the -- to the speech still hung together Britain but it's so.

I don't know how often asking -- how many times reads -- speech -- the forehand.

That would be one of those things where you might think you know -- -- -- -- to go there you know in this speech.

But as so it's it's a question of whether they just didn't realize or -- -- was actually trying to make a point -- the other.

There's a little bit of a shift out didn't you notice this right.

Obama is actually is making the point directly but you know.

That was searches second day and raised in -- issue about Fred -- I had the Washington Post you wrote an inch to an article saying that.

The Democrats division.

Is between.

Those of us who.

We're nostalgic in the key calls and thus this nostalgic liberals.

Verses.

Accountability liberals -- which is generally.

Folder liberal -- younger liberals or lose you protect.

The FDR tradition -- protect.

Government programs Social Security Medicare and those who -- accountability liberals who believe in things that if you don't have programs that work.

If they believe in things like having vouchers for schools we don't because -- they get a room -- to a system.

Yes there is that divide in this huge divide is generally the baby boom generation version Generation X.

Y and -- -- generation.

But it's real and I I I can -- that hi Betty good points.

What about a little while ago is threatening sort of the heat of after that in the wake of the 2010 elections remember it was a question of the establishment vs the cheaper than we've had that conversation for awhile.

But that and the media loves to talk about division amongst any party but in particular the GOP.

When it comes -- -- -- there is this growing divide and I don't think we have we've heard enough from people who are Smart political analyst.

To tell us how -- what does that mean for the future the Democrat party.

Yeah specific IC division.

But I -- -- between I would -- the blue collar Democrat and the academic.

Right out Americas is at war with the faculty lounge who dictate almost all public policy.

They provide the weekly story of government overreach that we talk about every you know every single day.

I got -- the split is.

It's not if it's not a fiscal split you know of the tea parties is -- for fiscal conservatives.

We don't venture into the social aspects of conservatism.

Who is is that the neo liberal isn't it knows no I don't I don't think -- go -- -- -- -- I was gonna say I agree with that nostalgia.

Liberal but accountability liberal I mean to me that's an oxymoron not it's like to hold on is like Jumbo shrimp -- or dry ice -- -- some of the things that we're saying I've never met a liberal that wants to reform.

Social Security I mean Aykroyd and that's that's a big old saw an accountability rhino is someone who switches parties and becomes a Republican did you -- that again -- He -- them you have to mention shrimp the we had our reality is there is there was one thing that does unite us.

Is Republican Party who we just cannot stand and -- -- -- vice Versa OK go -- I should also mention that the Vietnam veteran who was honored at the White House little -- -- stable.

Congratulations to him for his great courage and thank you for what he did.

That.

-- -- deserved it and -- gotten okay coming up when I went to school if you didn't pass testing flock.

I got -- of course.

But times change we'll tell you about how one state is lowering the bar for students.

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