New evidence painting complicated picture of Martin shooting
Could details help George Zimmerman's case?
- Duration 9:11
- Date May 18, 2012
Could details help George Zimmerman's case?
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Back got a big news today and our top story reams of new evidence changing.
What we know that the tree of on Martin's shooting case.
Photographs and police reports pinning a complicated picture of what happened that night here's one -- account that we are now getting here for the first time.
When we heard -- -- I looked out and that's when I saw -- a two man.
Hometown club on the -- to graphs -- he sought to people to people and they were whatever both underground.
No one was on top of the other hand I don't know which we'll look.
-- That was not.
Train on Martin's girlfriend that you -- listening to their that was an eyewitness that was a wrongful screen identification.
To shed light on all of this new evidence to world renowned crime scene -- experts mark -- Who's a former LAPD homicide detective.
And doctor Michael Baden who's a forensic pathologist and Fox News contributor so glad to have you both here.
With us doctor about let me start with you since you at the onset advantage what did you make of this autopsy report what did you glean from it.
Well I -- -- -- that the comments about the -- injuries and knuckle are invalid.
On trade not trade on -- had one George Zimmerman reportedly had no knuckle injuries that's right.
And that the muzzle weapon was up against the body of crave on his time destroyed -- was like within an inch of the book.
Of his body when it was discharge.
That -- have been ones on the ground a while there up.
Standing up can't tell from the autopsy but it was definitely fired at close range with a quiet very close -- the muzzled being right next to the skin.
And then it went straight in straight in through the heart.
Looking at -- at the way he was killed the injury to the heart is there any chance fighting could've continued after the bullet entered -- on -- Good question conceivably for a few seconds ten seconds or something like that until -- collapsed OK and there was no but there was no chance of providing him with that no chance even if people got -- faster this was a fatal injury.
OK I want to ask you mark because one of the interesting things that everybody wants to know is.
Who started the confrontation right because -- had Zimmerman following trade bond Tre -- then you know he lost and somehow and then the two men met up again.
And the question is -- cool confronting whom I want to play for our viewers now.
This is a sound -- from -- on Martin's girlfriend it is hurt speaking with the detectives about what she heard on her and for conversation with -- -- As that second mediate between -- bond and George Zimmerman took place was.
Toronto -- the guys getting closer to the end and then -- here for months saying something.
Yeah and what do you your car saying quite a following for -- you follow him before the end and then what happened.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- I mean does that answer the question mark that you know.
About about who confronted -- -- -- counter number two.
Well I -- and I think they're in this this whole incident is in two stages the first stage is one Zimmerman actually decides that he's going to.
On foot to pursuant surveil a -- -- on -- for what purpose was probably to see what he was up to and he said he looks suspicious that's the first state.
The second -- is when Zimmerman and calls 911 and they instruct him to go back to his vehicle and do not.
Pursue the individually is looking -- so.
It it actually does confirm the first stage that it was not Martin that decided to contact Zimmerman that was Zimmerman trying to contact -- So.
When you look at this you you have to say who who initiated the contact while there was.
Really to contacts initiated visual.
And then at the time that -- -- -- contacted Zimmerman.
Only occurred because Zimmerman did not to follow the orders of 911.
And sat in his car so what transpired there -- was stimulated by Zimmerman and everything after that point.
Would have never happened had Zimmerman not made that and it.
Your first one was clearly hurt by contact twice the other person clearly is ignorant and a second one appears to be -- -- if you believe the word of the girlfriend who's at first she heard.
-- -- on running she could hear breathing hard.
He was scared he said he had lost the guy who was following him and then you heard the sound bite of her talking about confrontation number two in which she said she -- -- -- say.
Why are you following me.
And then person said to -- -- What are you doing around here and then she heard a confrontation doctor Baden I wanna talk to you about.
The Trace amount of drugs that were found in the system of trade -- -- what -- the drugs what does it tell us.
It was evidence.
Meant to marijuana use the -- marijuana.
In the drugs and Trace amounts that could've been there for many days.
So didn't mean he was smoking pot that night.
Not not that that is smoking pot that night it didn't it.
-- contribute to the death in any way.
It was the reason that it was sent to that that the father in the first place because about a week before he had been discharged from school because he possible marijuana use.
When he was with his mother so.
Is there -- -- -- no telling whether that would have altered his mood his behavior his.
-- you know the level was too low to Alter any physiological.
Zimmerman was not tested and usually in -- in a homicide.
The you have suspect should also be tested did -- You see that as as that's a -- by the super police.
A failing -- -- although they did a lot of other things correct and the biggest failing I see is that he should have been brought to a hospital.
For head injuries there.
It is the problem with head injuries during incarceration is sometimes they reflect deeper.
Injuries to the brain.
And like with Natasha Richardson you can't tell from the outside whether or not there's internal bleeding.
Instead he not only on private doctor and Annette net and an -- to -- documented injuries but it's not the same is getting -- from in the trades necessary to document the fractured -- stand by because they're gonna continue this with doctor Baden and with mark -- -- after the break and I wanna ask mark in particular about some other witness testimony stay with us.
-- now we see this 7-Eleven video of trade on Martan twenty minutes before he would die.
Does this tell you anything as an investigator.
-- -- I'm certain temperature well when it when you watch.
When you when you watch the individual on several Lebanon it shows movies he doesn't look like he's on a crime spree certainly not shoplifting is not robbing a liquor store he's buying.
You know something to drink and something to eat and he's leaving.
And -- is bad -- the evidence that is found at the time -- his body was recovered is.
That he actually had scandals and -- -- so this -- the conduct of somebody that's gonna go out and start committing car burglaries -- home burglaries.
He is just simply walking through a neighborhood that George Zimmerman did not recognize that people -- I think this tape you know can can be helpful to the prosecution but this is a piece of evidence that came -- that is arguably not helpful to the prosecution mark.
In the affidavit the probable cause affidavit the investigator uses one of his pieces of evidence.
Trade on Martin's mother reviewed the 911 calls nominated question she identified the voice crying for help that we heard honest -- want calls in the background.
As her son -- -- Martin's voice.
Well what we learned last night was that they talked to George Zimmerman is -- as well listen that what he set.
That is absolutely positively George Zimmerman.
Myself my wife and family members and friends.
Know that that is George Zimmerman -- is no doubt who's doing trail.
You know as a detective mark to.
-- basically chose one and not the other is that how it's done.
I think this this whole issue one who is crying for help is completely irrelevant.
You George Zimmerman actually.
You know stimulated this contacts so there is something that caused this -- -- altercation began.
Now it was either of these statements I have a gun don't come closer displaying a gun but trade on Martin.
Does not seem to be the type of person that is just going to simply look at somebody and charge and start pummeling them with the -- so yeah the girlfriend -- -- -- action there that has not been what.
-- the girlfriend -- when does a team suggested doctor -- and heartbreak coming up -- 152 -- -- pictures of the crime scene anything coming from that.
Of -- probably not because it wasn't properly protected initially.
And the -- the crime scene could have determined -- -- trampling of grants.
In a struggle in -- movement could've have possibly found a blood drops on grants maybe from the nose.
And then it -- and they hadn't protected so that it would guys -- -- -- so much.