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After the session -- 21.
Jill Stein is our guest is a columnist at time magazine south of a brand new book man made a stupid quest.
For masculinity in fact Clinton's -- -- right -- to see how -- the book signing the -- yeah I'm gonna -- right now.
-- why I'm here let editorial what do I don't like Q&A little bit.
They're not very much and evaluate the -- -- your man should O'Brien rear naked choke to hold them the path.
Actually -- Is real excuses and as a reaction I've heard of it now they have to take off for that -- -- after the session house I live on the Internet right now this is great number three in the U.
It was total delinquent in the Kindle store.
Yeah those and we get category oh well -- your heart and humor section -- number three right now who's bloodier than you.
What two books are funnier than you in the Kindle store -- the you've resigned -- let's find out.
-- -- -- -- There you said you look at these rankings all there I try -- to -- the processor Janet.
Even even a -- She Bonaduce and -- -- -- -- -- amazing success -- de LA is in there to achieve things that you about it emissions from under the about the other two.
I don't know but.
-- Janet Vonage has written a whole series of books they were considered humorous but anyway I can see you're the whole purpose of your book is to be -- an -- It was it was because I know you're having a baby yes and you really want to have a girl.
Why didn't know that I didn't I -- -- -- -- a normal -- and one of the boy or didn't care -- it what do you find out when you find out that it was a boy I freaked out.
Yeah I knew I just remembered.
That -- is like to camp.
-- boys like to but -- finish out of denial but when you look at New York guys at the bottom -- it I'm in New York City I don't really go camping kind of go fishing now I'm gonna start doing this past I think -- -- -- knowledge that went to some warnings -- an excuse right and my dad is like stars as -- and getting in fights and he boxed in college so it's just.
Me I only myself.
So you consider yourself a win.
It -- I wasn't ever considered that -- wasn't.
-- -- -- the consensus now and I entered image of myself as sinister section of society that we're raising our kids especially boys to eat a little bit wimpy because of technologies you don't need to do anything.
Right right I heard the argument you know you don't roll up that win you know windows in the car anymore even we don't we don't get a little exercises right crank in the window open press a button goes up and down.
So what did you find out -- went out on all these adventures yet you became a boy scout you fives in the united UFC fighter Randy tour.
You joined the army for a day wondering if -- three -- that's -- that's what they're never wow fifty Linden and Eric's yeah I've said it was the part.
Towards the end to boot camp for the public mash unit kind of basically restate intense.
That when cops even better than part -- what did you find out about yourself.
I found out that I -- psychologically weak.
And that afraid of confrontation.
And and that the only way to become.
Manly -- to fix these problems is by doing things you know like go and find yourself and learn about yourself that we're kind of -- some of our experiences so competition about who likes them I guess our success you guys have yeah seek it out they like to get in fights they like to I hate confrontation on the very -- it -- -- -- it right Larry David of course he can't stand it said he can't stand to social situations -- -- sort of seeks it out to get out of situations.
How do you get out of those situations -- you -- just by doing things.
Yeah how how does that work -- if you don't like being in a fight with someone or are right over someone and confused but you're never gonna change that part of you that's -- personality.
But what you can change is that fear of pushing yourself beyond your comfort zone.
Some more of this stuff you do the less afraid you'll be it's like I got to punch him in the face pretty early -- perspective Zomorodi.
Where would you ever find somebody be willing to do that there is that just read in an Intel 8000 people line up outside -- And -- what happened after that.
There's a tear that rolled down my -- and I drove home drunk basically from being punished but.
I realize that you kind of stand up right afterwards and he -- Isn't quite as bad as you'd think even though it's -- At least -- afraid of if that's in your head somewhere -- not -- as most of the confrontation ends up being in your head right.
Mean out of fear pharma matters regarding me fearful just asking for a day off from work personally I would not on -- -- I've -- asterisk.
But there are there any other people who won't do that they're afraid of having actually have that meeting and asked the woman out until a year after college and the one I used was.
-- -- -- Okay you actually -- -- Okay I'm also notes front I really -- -- -- -- very similar to what lessons did you learn from going through all this stuff and what lessons you up to teach yourself.
Yeah I -- to teach and.
-- not be afraid of competition for sure that's I mean fear and just to be more comfortable doing these things and that.
I think -- kind of created and this identity for myself of being like nerdy Jewish writer guy and then it didn't allow me to expand beyond that.
-- prevented me under all kinds of things that didn't fit into that little role that I created.
I think that was a mistake even if I wasn't good -- -- -- -- -- -- just exposed -- if you think it it's just you know or do you think it's part of our culture now and I think I'm extreme but I think -- particles so we're raising what our our young boys to be more -- Yeah I mean I grip in the seventies we you know during freebie you need and we're gender as a social construct.
And then you have a kid and you see the -- girls are radically different is that from birth.
-- we were some weird social experiment that went wrong like the -- parents didn't notice this but my son grabbed a mustard when these first started to crawl from the closet sort of pushing around the making like partners -- with it and it.
We're like oh I guess if the final car doesn't -- matchbox -- the -- Think he sleeps with them now like they're stuffed animals like.
Girls don't you do that -- that.
Yeah obviously but other condiments like ketchup and -- -- They are totally different and I -- and speak -- experience as well because and a girl first and then a boy.
And no matter what you try and put in front right hand -- they gravitate to almost to sort of.
In your instinct of what what they wanna -- right yeah it's not that -- and commercials and -- -- relatives like girls is gonna wanna dress up and boys usually don't.
The plan unless they're -- you with the interrogator it all right and and I've sort of already ingrained that in my son my grandma you know he he gets -- dirty -- most watched let's get doctor right.
It's right now he kind of gets this thing -- -- get some stuff on his hands and puts his hands of -- he wants it got a shot back I know I -- well -- dirt on -- is always bring his hands with some kind of you know just for an area where pure relatively.
And anything that isn't here we've covered in mud and whatever but his hands that was noticing which I guess is you're gonna get -- but yet not.
We got to -- the good timing for the book with Father's Day coming up the not a coincidence.
But what really publish it figured out yes exactly very good timing but it is apropos it's called man made a stupid quest for masculinity.
Jill Stein -- great job on it you survived everything fairly.
But he survived and a lot of good lessons and good luck with the book and things and.
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