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WI recall a good predictor of general election?

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The whole basis upon which this recall election was at least in his eyes I was about a reforms.

And they don't talk about the reforms anymore because the reforms are working that have more than a billion dollars worth of savings -- lower property taxes.

The budget was -- next issue they talked about the budget -- -- a 154 million dollars.

Surplus and that's been document as well.

We have put enormous -- over a million dollars of resources into the statement I still think it's going to be a close -- I still think Darren.

We'll win but.

I don't know.

What it will say about.

Get moving forward I don't think it'll say much.

-- gay mayor Tom Barrett the Democrat trails the current Republican governor Scott Walker and Wisconsin that recount recall election June 5.

Pretty much in every single poll.

As it stands now what does this really doing is there a shift in Wisconsin we're back to the panel.

Steve.

-- well I think that those polls that show Governor Walker.

Roughly -- five or six points are accurate because there are a number of them as you suggest and I think they also are consistent with internal polling.

On the Republican side.

What's happening now is Democrats are basically issue shopping.

As Governor Walker suggested didn't in the sound -- you played they started with these two collective bargaining it was the budget reforms these -- the things that.

With a trigger for the recall the fact.

And Democrats are no longer talking about those issues and there was a poll -- of the Democrats in Wisconsin.

What's the single issue what what issue matters -- most -- you consider your vote in the recall collective bargaining came -- at 12%.

Four out of all of the issues that were listed so it's not an issue that moves -- anymore so -- the real question is why we haven't recall this was the purpose of the recall.

And nobody cares a -- -- few people care about it.

In so Tom -- and that may or Milwaukee who is the democratic -- Scott Walker.

Has tried all of these other issues he's tried budget he's tried jobs he's trying now he's trying this.

There's investigation -- some former Scott Walker aids he's doing ads on that.

But there doesn't seem to be much of a rationale for his candidacy because he's not putting out any policy ideas and -- no one here.

Heard David Axelrod there but it is there a sense that Democrats either in Wisconsin or nationally are starting to throw in the towel and change the talking points on Wisconsin.

I think the they're they're unions I don't think of thrown in the -- the unions clearly want walker out.

But the sense that I had -- was -- -- last week.

With that Milwaukee journal sentinel said you know what we don't endorse.

Having walker thrown out right now.

-- -- have trouble with his policies and they have trouble with the idea that Wisconsin has become such.

A polarized.

State so a battleground between left and right we don't like it either but.

We don't see recalling -- governor on this basis.

I think they are at issue shopping to some extent.

But I with a little bite that you heard from Russ Feingold -- I think tells you a lot Russ Feingold simply said this is not the Wisconsin we knew and we need to move away from this kind of -- Whether it's a recall or a regular election.

Israel -- -- advice that I even the newspapers you know look we gotta just about a million signatures for recall that's pretty significant but right now I think that the temperature shifting.

-- -- And as that happens as we saw earlier in the show reporting that some of the democratic groups are withdrawing whereas smoking.

And loss coming up and I love the way the Democrats.

Are -- are trying to discount the importance of this election.

You know this it's like saying Waterloo was you know a skirmish in the Belgian wilderness.

This is Armageddon for the for the unions.

They they have this is their third shot on this issue this one huge issue.

They want to make an example of -- walker because they know.

That people that they have been living high on the hog.

-- these have corrupt deals these contracts with politicians.

For half a century and walker challenge -- -- because if he's winning.

They had won election to Supreme Court in Wisconsin they did not succeed.

They had a recall election on the senate and they did not succeed if they don't succeed here three strikes and you're out it'll be a huge defeat for the unions.

We will be out there on June 4 of June 5 -- special report on the road in Madison and -- show.

Was cuts that's it for the panel but stay tuned to find out.