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America's top Catholic leader now Timothy cardinal Dolan.
He's not backing down he's out again slamming the administration for its decision on contraception.
Health and human services system.
Will defying church -- Will tell you what you you.
-- earnings exemption so to be at church and you've got a coalition of your own people you've got only hired.
And you've only got a teacher.
Couldn't give you the exemptions were -- -- The wisdom of Americans that you didn't mind insurance card you gave freedom.
And see what's happening to us why -- -- -- -- His news.
Just from yesterday afternoon here in New York State Stephen Hayes senior writer weekly standard and Fox News.
Contributor and Stephen good morning to -- for more about he set a lot -- that interview with the box it's channel we forget this is going to be a long struggle.
Talking about exempt for conscience.
He he's he's not given -- with the impact of that.
Well I think there could be a pretty significant impact if you look back at the history of these.
Discussions that the Catholic Church had with the administration they trying to work the church tried to work with the administration to come to some kind of a compromise repeatedly.
And was unable to and then the final compromise that the Obama administration offered the church.
Ended up rejecting so I think you've got but you don't -- -- cardinal -- somebody who feels that he was Herschel personally given assurances by the president.
That it diss that guy in these exemptions would be taken under consideration and who feels that that.
That word wasn't cap so you know with the announcement.
With the lawsuits I think you've seen the Catholic Church decide that they have got to fight they have no other options but can they win this case in court.
I think they can win this case according when you look at the -- take a step back and look at the big picture look at will go back to the founding talk about.
The way that the country without it was founded on religious liberty.
And here you have a federal government that's attempting to tell the church what it can and cannot do in the most specific and sensitive areas of what a church does on a -- a basis.
And you know his definition of church and I think the that -- write about.
The definition the church is not just people going to the the the the church on Sunday and sitting in pews.
And let me get back to that point -- moment but even trying to make a point that this.
Topic itself it's gotten little media coverage.
Now now we -- we talked to -- and on Monday cardinal.
Com in our and our producer here were -- -- -- him yesterday afternoon as well.
And now this story has gotten coverage here but what are you finding elsewhere which are -- point -- Well I mean if you look back at the coverage on time on Monday night it you know you had two of the networks that decided that it wasn't worth covering at all.
In one network that spent the nineteen seconds on the story and since then you've had scant attention paid to what I think is a pretty significant story when you have.
The leadership of the Catholic Church challenging these mandates from.
The federal government and -- it is a classic right why would other media outlets stay away from.
Well I think for a couple things it's not a simple story this really does go back you have to look at that that is that the founding the the country at the look at the -- of the constitution you have to look at.
The First Amendment in you know I think most often -- in today's media environment you have networks or or correspondents are people who are discussing this who wanna -- -- as.
Contraception not contraception it's much bigger than that it's a religious liberty issue.
And if you get it all sorts of complicated difficult issues that don't lend themselves to short coverage on the nightly newscast that's not.
A reason not to cover the story however what the cardinal argues seems pretty much what you just said it's not about contraception -- -- religious freedom and if the government he would argue.
Wins on this case forward as a stop what -- the Catholic Church or anywhere else in America.
So he says our objection is that -- bureau the government is attempting to define what -- church it's.
He's making a case that you're telling us who we can administer to and who we cannot.
And that is protected by the constitution that's what they tell what judgment and a.
Yeah I will look and those are precisely the kind of incursions.
That the founders sought to guard against the mean this is the reason in some respects that the United States was founded.
So I think it's it's not at all -- stretch for the -- to make that argument I think he's likely to find very sympathetic -- even for people who might not.
Come from where he does ideologically or theologically.
But who understand that the founding the country.
-- one more thing and there's that the politics of 65 million Catholics in America I think the numbers right I think 35 million voted in 2008.
What -- what's the effect of that possibly in November if you still have this ongoing matter.
-- President Obama won 47%.
Of white the white Catholic vote according to New York Times exit poll in 2008.
That's significant vote in and for him I think the concern would be that those votes are clustered in places.
That he needs to do well those persuade a -- votes those independent votes in places like.
Michigan Ohio bit rural middle class and I he's going to need those votes in Wisconsin as well Steve thanks have a good weekend Steve.
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