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Let me welcome -- hearings these -- senior writer -- faith in public life.
And you bloods about -- -- public life on his sites.
And also worked at the Catholic alliance -- Catholics -- alliance for the common good you're Catholic writer -- man of faith I presume John.
The only thing -- -- and on the program I thought what -- it was very interesting in your piece.
About the relationship between.
The church and Republican policy because we so often heard.
Especially lately that there's a conflict between what the church stands for and the birth control issue on the left we've often heard about.
The standing of the church verses the pro choice.
Views of Democrats.
The new -- who want to John Kerry not to take communion what made you take this tack.
Well I think it's really stunning and frankly shameful to watch conservative leaders like representative Brian and -- argue with a straight face that the budget -- that the poor and the sick.
The bears greatest burden when it comes to pack that debt somehow lit up the Christian principles.
The reality is the GOP budget really turns gospel values upside down technically easier for other -- Harder for those on the margins fighting the paper and paper food.
You know on a conditioning and -- -- Catholic bishops are exactly group easily dismissed the -- Really admonished.
And representative Ryan and the house budget that that it failed the basic moral test than.
You know the bishops have called for balanced approach to deficit reduction that puts military spending on the table brings some -- -- tax policies.
Pickup that right now -- well -- you so you know I applaud representative Brian really any member of congress she wants to take -- -- -- -- seriously.
But I'm afraid of failing grade -- and the way he distorts catholicism its rich social justice tradition and you know threatening that tradition up.
Have for the conservative ideology that's really rooted in individualism.
And anti government deal almost a religious devotion to free market fundamentalism it's just something that needs to be addressed.
When I was surprised at I didn't realize that so many Catholic bishops had written this letter many professors increase as you pointed out at the Catholic university.
Who took at Georgetown took offense to this and and I wasn't aware that -- of the media hardly covered this.
Yeah you're right they think it's an intentional and it's part of the challenge.
You know the breakthrough in terms of of a broader understanding of the Catholic social justice tradition you know my organizations -- the public life and others.
You know work everyday to make sure that you know people understand that certain that the narrow agenda the religious right is and really the whole story.
But you're right you know you know bishops have have criticized.
This budget that nine the Catholic professors at Georgetown has its has taken a percent -- the task in terms.
You know the way it is but to -- cheating and I and I think that's an important thing for voters Catholic voters -- all voters understand.
I'm as particularly as we.
Sort of navigate this complex election here.
A document -- -- -- to the conservatives who took a big game of that family values.
To be held accountable when their economic policies undermine as you put -- human dignity.
Yeah and -- you -- -- earlier you know Democrats who certainly faced poignant piece from legislators on issues like abortion and same sex marriage but.
To a degree conservatives have gotten a bit of the free path.
And I think they really should be forced to explain.
You know -- policies that -- safety net that protects and -- -- Policies that will -- -- wealthy Marc Christian they're not you know the same goes for the rights and I her parents fear mongering defensive torture.
Denials environmental threats you know these are used it really class with that -- religious values and Christian teaching they're not simply liberal positions.
Did you get any response from Ryan or anybody on the right and to to these letters to any any were not -- but -- the did that yeah so the professors give me reply.
Well with a huge thing is for the -- -- on Fox News said that well.
You know the bishops you wrote this letter you know don't really speak for the -- church that he was trying to play it divide and conquer game which is really preposterous because.
You know that does that leading bishops who wrote this wrote these several letters not just one.
To the house I'm a word the head of the one of them as the head of the US contradict Catholic bishops.
Domestic crisis committee and so -- either either bishops who were elected by their brother brother bishops to speak companies matters and so.
You know I think for -- to downplay that this really problematic.
-- the argument and I've made on the left about birth control that -- in -- -- percent of women -- -- surveys Catholic women use it don't agree necessarily with the church on birth control.
And therefore those who have made the argument against the left.
On the position -- birth control don't speak for a lot of people in the church and yet -- derided.
By the Ryan's of the world when they.
Go against church doctrine.
You know and I think again we need to get back -- having a broader values debate.
You know you know me narrowed down the role of faith and politics to issues like contraception and -- same sex marriage -- really you -- -- -- -- deep social justice tradition of not just the Catholic Church but but many days and not.
You know we need a responsible debate about our budget but it.
We know that support working class didn't cause or deficit you know at the end of the Clinton presidency we had record surpluses -- came -- responsible tax cuts for the rich to work democratic car.
Wall Street CEOs making reckless that's you know that pastor and so.
You know and sometimes it's hard to -- conservatives like Ryan and others seriously -- that the talks when it won't lay a finger on military but it's inevitable plans about eleven.
Or tax cuts.
For millionaires -- we certainly in the day intellectually honest but made up about her death but there's a right way and -- a -- way to do this and we shouldn't have to make a false choice between fiscal responsibility and economic fairness.
Speaking about military budgets and what about the just war theory which never seems be -- -- anybody Saint Augustine Syrian work.
Which if we were to loyal to the church would have -- not be involved in many of the wars we get involved.
Sure and you know the late Pope John Paul the second that said that war is always the defeat for humanity and and that -- Shall Dutch tradition always has a preference for peace.
So I mean I think that's it's an important point you know we talk about military budgets -- -- we're constantly just talking about this from.
Point of view that would put the will be passed this and a Catholic tradition isn't -- -- -- like the breaker tradition but it does have a just war -- and you know they noted earlier the cap emissions -- look we need to have.
You know responsible discussion about our -- and and that you know.
I'm need to be talking about a military budget -- -- -- -- really out of control since and the tragedy of nine elevenths so.
You know I I think we need -- responsible debate about our economic situation and unfortunately it seems like what we're getting.
Many of our political leaders is just sort of more the thing and it got -- -- -- question though is should.
Public policy be responsive to any one particular faith.
Yeah I mean -- regrets and I mean you know we have a rich tradition and our nation.
You know values being central to our discuss and -- think back to the civil rights movement.
You know that that movement was so critical -- our nation's living up to our our best values and that was in many ways inspired by.
You know broad civic values but -- ones that were very much rooted and and and that's faith and religious sensibility and and animated that.
You know it's had no way to say that you know we want -- theocracy that certain lane the values.
Through faith traditions should be should be.
A part of our debates over how we move forward in this country.
John appreciate it that -- -- peace is available online you write for faith in public life.
You're up at peace could lots of attention and I thank you -- coming -- onto our management and it.
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