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Should Mitt isolate himself from Donald Trump?
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- Date May 30, 2012
Should Mitt isolate himself from Donald Trump?
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What you wanna talk -- -- is a much more thoughtful panelist and want California Kelly.
One that we won't tell -- -- -- got some -- last week it's not your temper Britons have been tabled just kept them -- his.
I'll -- right as long as she says what that is -- Carter be able to hold onto his seat in Michigan.
And now he's a write in candidate now yeah now -- -- write in candidate I don't feel that America but it's.
-- -- -- We don't out of my comfort zones -- okay how about this will from New Jersey should -- isolate himself from Donald Trump.
We heard Charles on this yesterday Steve doing away and yes -- don't usually end -- Yes I wanna -- -- yes he should actually himself but I understand the argument that Donald Trump is a plain -- -- speaking for me of people who are who have these frustrations.
He's a clown he's -- said -- a year ago he's a clown he's always been a clown it doesn't.
He doesn't make arguments he doesn't know he's talking about half the time when he does.
Same thing remember what he said about Iraq what do you say was we knew he should just go -- and take all the oil and shut it down that's when I'll paraphrase.
You know it's just in this is the kind of thing that will create more trouble down the road then it will.
Provide help and I think.
There are people Romney campaign who understand.
-- and are concerned about it -- are they and I just less -- on the panel there are people who say that his robo calls in places like Michigan and Ohio had.
You know help him with blue -- -- voters especially and -- if we're blue collar voter I would listen to the billionaire.
That's what I I think you can see now why that is really Trace the lines aren't always attracts a lot of attention but I know we just -- is really good money for -- And you don't make him out because then he punishes you when they're afraid of him.
He hosted a big farmers -- -- -- on her birthday he's really helped them out and you know how child like he gets.
And retaliatory he is something it's not going to be good if Mitt Romney.
We hit rock Romney is not being with is not hanging out with him because if he'd -- he needs Donald Trump to speak to -- call -- -- -- argument the Obama campaign's argument is you're gonna link yourself to Donald Trump and and thereby are you not a leader who can.
Say who you're going to be with or not based on money that's what they say.
I think -- -- great to walk away from Donald Trump I just think that the reason he was I'm buying this was not because.
Some kind of mid America appeal it was because of the fund -- behind closed doors.
I was senator Barack Obama who spent 20/20.
Years in the pew -- raving racist but not be going around accusing others of guilt by association.
If he wants to get engaged in that game.
I think their dominance would take him oh with Jeremiah Wright with -- William Ayers and all the others who were not.
Talked about in 2008 as they should have been who are not being talked about now because Obama has a record now and we're not gonna talk about.
Past associations but if he wants to play the association's.
Game he's so he's living in a glass house and they will be shattered.
And -- -- today I mean -- his super pac is taking run by former deputy Press Secretary at the White House is taking money from bill Mars -- mark.
It throws epithets at Sarah Palin and others I mean it's it's it's a dangerous game for.
The -- administration you can make.
Mean you can make I would make a practical argument for our -- Romney campaign and say it is simply not worth it because whatever the controversy of the day is.
-- trump when he speaks.
It would be viewed as a surrogate for your campaign.
You can't control Donald Trump you can't even suggested Donald Trump that he -- -- he's out of control.
That's part of the reason that people like him is that he says what's on his mind he's not careful with his words but it's the last kind of person.
You want as a surrogate for your campaign particularly when he does he stopped well versed in these -- are people wanna move on they say.
She's coming up quite a bit and be.
She's the senate candidate on the democratic side Massachusetts going up against Republican incumbent.
Scott Brown it looks like a close race -- brown might have an edge in recent polls Elizabeth Warren has had.
Some issues with the Cherokee Nation.
In that she apparently called herself Cherokee in in the past and Harvard has listed her as as native American and.
She hasn't really dealt with this well -- she.
When you're 132 -- here -- at a fraction was.
By -- I think it's such an interesting story because she started with such a commanding.
Kind of sense of momentum.
And people were afraid to run against her on the primary and democratic side she was polling better than Scott -- in and out front a fund raising him.
And it looks like it's a very tight race now and unless and until something extraordinary happens.
I think Scott Brown is on a very.
At protecting his back and Massachusetts.
And trying to position himself.
As an independent Republican or what he called in January of 2010 is Scott brown and Republican.
And I think.
-- it's he has a very good chance of keeping that seat.
Which would be a big loss for Democrats is who Alia had a long time called it Ted Kennedy's seat he didn't believe that and that's not -- right and they didn't always have brown would win.
The -- -- -- and that team Obama did not get involved.
And and two to ensure.
That he would lose and -- would win and that was a real.
Coakley -- excuse me.
And that was a real.
-- was a real.
Lost in so many senses of the word for the Democrats especially for the president and his team.
Political team they truly didn't see it coming they took it for granted they underestimated Scott brown -- overestimated.
Martha Coakley and that was it does she was a -- candidate.
And they let us seek out and they warned it has Ted Kennedy's seat they want to -- But it's not going very well yeah I -- things could change but she's.
Doing well with independent voters and the people who can still be -- and.
And then they incredibly overrated.
Elizabeth Warren who's the heartthrob of and who was for months -- of American liberalism from the upper west side they would.
I mean her Cherokee stuff that you can't make it up.
-- you know it's a fact thanks you know Winston Churchill was to at least twice as in -- -- -- she says she's.
Churchill was 116 it was his fifth and -- the story of FDR and said he would -- And talking about how his ancestors and the Dutch settlers FDR's -- has had settled in Manhattan.
Would the first to settle Manhattan and Churchill said no the second.
My people -- -- first he had one great.
Great grandma who was indeed I mean the whole story is preposterous.
And yet she actually contributed to -- book.
Years ago kind of content put that it was called how -- -- It was a -- I call you can't -- you can't come on this trip too much information I -- you can't nobody will believe that if I wrote it.
How well -- -- contributed to find recipes Indian -- said she signed her name.
In the book she wrote her -- -- Elizabeth Warren -- Cherokee.
Now here's a beauty.
Two of the recipes -- plagiarized from the New York Times.
And one of them was she plagiarized was a -- word for word.
Taken from probably the most expensive French restaurant in New York because -- favorite.
The prince of Wales and the duke of Windsor who resigned over.
-- you whenever nameless.
The woman he was in love with and what was -- -- and to wage one commentator wrote.
-- cracked -- it was a crab recipe.
And one commentator spoke about.
The prowess of Lawrence and sisters.
In hunting is a fast moving Oklahoma -- He's got you could write a book about it.
So does Steve good to begin -- the Cherokee.
Nation or at least some folks in the Cherokee Nation have launched a website now on FaceBook group calling.
The Harvard Law School professor Elizabeth Warren's claim of native American lineage quote harmful and offensive and his -- Crossed and so anyway it looks like it's this is cause some problems but there are other articles that say that voters just sure.
Yeah I mean I actually for all we should -- shouldn't let Charles.
Suggests I mean this should be probably have more significant story then it has turned out to be and it -- write that she.
Came out of the gates and did very well but if you look at her numbers -- both fundraising and polling since this scandal has exploded.
She's still basically tied with Scott Brown.
He and I don't think we see in the kind of erosion that we should have seen given her complete and total lack of credibility.
Anything she is set on some cheesy and it won't -- people representing her interests have set -- that's it's -- A farce and it hasn't tanked her candidacy the way that it -- otherwise might have.
There's a serious issue about minority idiocy.
Her out of the way which could describe your background.
This is a classic case of liberals constructing a rigged system.
And identity politics and then exploiting it and print and as she did -- obviously -- to yourself as a minority.
Forgetting about in the future.
And it did that and for the ordinary American who have to compete this.
It -- the kids have to compete with other.
Minorities and majorities for the prizes in life -- commission -- colleges is a disgrace incidentally was mister Simpson.
I need you here and now I hear whether and how loud shallow as accurate alone -- -- is a real fact.
I'm surprised that hasn't had a very good it is fantastic because nobody believes that they out.
OK mark from long -- key says come on Brett Wisconsin is Tuesday let Steve go over the raced there one last time just want to guess what mark.
Steve is going to be out Wisconsin with us he's going to go over the race many times but I don't see the floor to Steve to get it get -- -- online Wisconsin and it was and -- there's an interest in a new poll out today from Marquette university law school may be the last big public.
Poll that we'll see.
Two before voting on Tuesday and it -- Scott Walker up seven points.
It was interesting in part because it's consistent with most other public polling that we've seen which had the race and 56 points the last three public polls and had a five or six points.
But Democrats have been pushing private polling that they've done that shows the race either as a dead heat or with bears down.
Just a pointer to commute internals the internals he had done that the Democratic Governors Association I think an -- campaign what -- the -- -- the walker.
-- I think the walker internals and Republican internals -- Republican internals.
Have been somewhere.
Fluctuating between three and six.
Roughly -- -- their new York daily daily tracking 36 points showing walker.
So that explains why I think Republicans have been fairly confident.
New walker himself -- not bend cocky by any means but he's been I think.
Confident but they remain concerned about -- turnout election and this is what it's likely to come down to his turn out.
And used to turn out better than anybody ABM a little surprise that there hasn't been this media blitz -- -- I haven't seen.
Really his -- got -- and I -- the Obama administration is clearly.
Hiding from us because they Arnie just -- today that that President Obama endorses there -- -- -- and is deputy campaign manager Stephanie Cutter was on TV today saying there's a lot of grassroots energy behind the campaign he doesn't need President Obama come out there and speak.
And she was asked are you you know staying away from the campaign know that you think it -- -- really appears.
That they expect.
Bear to lose and then I wanna look -- like they're overtly investing.
And something that could turn out to be a defeat and so I think it.
I mean I my sense is that that that turn out on that can -- on the Republican side is -- much better that they are much more.
Galvanized energized and an angry and and I think that you know the bar is supposed to be -- for recall election so if you're.
You know labor worker or something and you you know.
Card carrying member right you're gonna get on the car but if you're.
In the middle against someone who says you know the bar for our recall election should be higher than us we can't just recall people over one policy.
And so that's why I think if you combined the apathy of those voters.
-- with the excitement of the conservative.
Population -- thinking you know and obviously the polling at just doesn't seem like.
It's going to be a win for the Democrats I think they expect to launch.
Did you see the debate.
That's our -- that I don't I saw from -- to these people are saying.
Online that walker did well.
But I am surprised that we're not seeing more Barrett -- we've offered the very campaign.
Time and walker campaign obviously.
We're going out to Wisconsin Monday and Tuesday.
And so hopefully we'll track them down on Monday Charles thoughts.
While the -- is I think maybe he's right from about the bar people out of their minds.
You can do -- it's got to be over something large.
What US going to be about the union and the change in the union regulations.
In the power of the unions that you have -- as we know -- the campaign.
Democrats have run away from and in fact I think we we -- said on the panel earlier in the week.
-- perhaps last week.
That if you ask the voters was the most important issue in this election.
I think said it was the union regulations so.
And that there's no rationale for the recall at all right now.
And I think there will be people who say why are we doing this and -- to make a statement either staying home if -- normally a Democrat.
Forward to vote against the Democrats for having what is essentially.
-- undoing of the union regulation the first was -- Supreme Court.
Race which the Democrats lost the second was a recall of the members of the senate -- they got only two and they needed more.
And now the governor.
Salacious as your -- -- -- last night.
I think forward what a joke about I'm not sure I remember how -- Although I've got -- now it's the that Pakistani doctors who's been arrested.
Since the 33 years and what should we do.
And I said we should whisper the word.
India to the Pakistani.
And that would get their attention.
Oh my -- Bob Beckel said that you were irresponsible for saying that today he was on the -- as you know is this and said that two.
-- that the Clinton administration the bush administration and the Obama administration.
Paul worked hard to.
Put these two nuclear armed countries.
On equal footing and peaceful.
And that you were irresponsible and probably regretted saying.
That the US should threaten.
-- Stand with the relationship with India -- Beckel I got no regrets and you Iran and figured I was advocating that we get India to go to war with Pakistan.
That's not what I said I -- -- I think that's your interpretation if you're listening if not we'll send you -- -- he's.
What I was saying we should change his center of gravity.
-- our involvement in South Asia we have.
We better -- on Pakistan in 2001 after nine elevenths.
As we had to and succeeded.
But now Pakistan is not on our sides playing at least double game.
If not worse we ought to have an ostentatious.
To visit by the secular state in New Delhi and to have a new strategic relationship centered on India.
All kinds of the military exercises sell -- equipment.
-- strategically involve ourselves when India and showed that the pakistanis -- we have another game that we can play.
If they want to play against us.
-- from California says I hear Brett clicking on the computer Iraqis trying to get all of these things and -- people are asking about attorney general holder meeting with them.
Black pastors today really -- that whole deal to -- -- on the headline tendencies.
We talked about it we didn't we weren't in the room so we can't talk.
-- -- C treaty.
Anybody feel like -- let weighing in on the sea treaty.
Got some on and you learn the revealer it will never die.
I remember didn't -- this being debated -- when I was short pants I think.
And maybe even in diapers it's forever this -- liberals internationals have decided if you sign a law of the -- trees.
You know the -- -- keep themselves open.
We we don't need a tree what we need -- -- US navy a strong US -- and that's what keeps the peace in the C.
But there is all that stuff about.
You know Dick Morris and others saying that this is in real infringement and it's an effort to do -- well short of that is.
The UN insists that Dan and so is this a big deal and why are we.
Is is there a big push back whenever Democrats are -- him in -- there -- only in favor when Republicans.
Coming into one of the versions I don't even know which one even over some -- work.
The UN gets to all of these modules on them from the bottom of the sea.
Which at least in the eighties and -- nineties was thought to be a gold mine and so imagine the UN.
The -- to -- to run it in charge of all this stuff.
And and this of course would be stuff and only western technology.
Could -- extract to reach and they would be the ones who use it it's got all kinds of stuff of -- you could have done essentially nothing.
In the last hundred years who wanting to seize the fruits of -- the west has achieved.
And that's among other reasons -- reason to say -- I would say big mistake.
By the way inside baseball here when you coming to the end.
Of the past I think I've talked about this on on the show before if we're getting to the time -- the commercials about to hit I give this signal.
This is thirty seconds left and if I'm gripping really hard -- it's fifteen.
If I ever get to the twirling pan which is Chris Wallace's favorite if he doesn't Portland -- then we are really about to hit the commercial.
And done you'll hear interest in disk now it's from a -- trying to get custody and that of their sentences.
Charles occasionally -- big mistake.
Tough sell it could be -- new.
It at yourself as a violator tonight I -- I did not notice your arm I spoke apparently for.
Quite a while after you extended your arms tonight yeah.
I guess it's rural and and had to just get out it was like a tough sell.
Time is always the issue and we you know we had fun doing these -- panel powers.
For special nights I think -- him do that again or do anything was put a vote up shall we do a panel hour.
On various topics some tells me it'll be an overwhelming vote yes.
-- -- last choice.
Tom I was that we were gonna talk about that kill list and our -- here in -- -- is disappointed in the lack of holder discussion.
Let's just -- would would would we don't have is a lot of -- tale about the black pastors.
So what people are concerned about it on a host of things about holder fast and furious.
Voter ID amid a long list of holder.
Issues but as far as that today's.
Talk with the black pastor.
-- About what they can and cannot do.
To raise money and and to be active in this election and keep -- 501 C three status.
Was not a big thing on the -- -- today.
But their holder has issues.
Oh here's -- and it's also and -- -- to hear what happened with a black pastors and to me and around because there's a lot of tension.
Between the administration and black pastors they want.
To help them win a lot of the election in and mountain battleground this column and you know these -- the same people who.
The legalization of same sex marriage Jenner and feeling -- really surprised -- the president's.
Came out and said that he.
Supported that -- they feel that it violates fair.
Their beliefs and that that that's not in the Bible and stop this is sent a chilly time.
Some of the ones -- -- the closest to members of the administration -- the president himself so it's interesting to.
Libyan citizen now how they're actually navigating that relationship in terms of what and who's going to turn out who and how.
Come November say.
Pick up more -- in DC I am disappointed that you have not been reading this comment.
Okay here I am.
On this potential VP choice representative -- -- and a -- -- SR Ross Leighton from Florida for VP twenty plus year member of the house chair of the house foreign relations committee legislative experience and Hispanic.
She would not have the baggage of being attached to George W.
Bush -- Rob Portman Condoleezza Rice.
-- -- and Jeb Bush would be or can't be accused of lack of sufficient nationals financially Kelly asked.
Marco Rubio Susanne Martinez Chris Christie would be my other choice would be Paul -- So.
Nicholas yeah well I mean she's certainly an accomplished member of congress if she's sweet she's chair of the house foreign relations -- -- -- -- foreign affairs committee and you know -- and particularly active on Q -- but also on other issues particularly in the Middle East.
Early and do and I think around the and I think has been you you know usually.
A good spokesman for sort of conservative.
Do you worldview.
On a lot of these issues.
I don't know what the answer would be is that she hasn't been she hasn't been prominent enough and there could be a perceived.
Even the so called stature gap that you sometimes get when you talk about a love elevating a member.
Of the House of Representatives and typically if you have a member of the House of Representatives who from who finds him or herself on.
Vice president to -- -- somebody who has made.
But a real name for him or herself in.
-- and leading in national debate.
Like all -- like Paul Ryan asked Marco Rubio Guantanamo Bay trip.
VP shopping or foreign relations and that junket.
-- he's doing everything he can.
Beef up his foreign policy credentials and that is for sure.
-- you can tell by looking at his schedule the appearances he's making trips is taking.
I think he's interested in -- in and all of the above jobs he has a very long.
-- future ahead of -- at age 41.
No matter what senator no matter whom Romney picks this fall.
And I think that he if he is picked.
Will say yes but if he is not selected I think he will go.
About his business out of solidifying his experience in the senate.
And -- particularly in the realm of a foreign policy because he's on -- for religiously I think it it.
I mean he's -- kind of dashing through it rather.
If you look at the VP sweepstakes schedule.
But I think that he knows that there's many many presidential cycles happen for.
I have trouble seeing -- get mode trip as a junket.
I'm not -- the beaches managed to -- in the Riviera.
For them the hotel that don't know I think I just heard good -- and have left footprints and I was pretty I don't know my -- process junket.
I was -- was -- this senate yeah royalties not eight NN and his hotels are not any two rivals the GSA.
Vegas so yes exactly so I mean I think he's trying to show seriousness and when you're young and you look like -- eleven.
That helps that we made the prediction here.
Before I think the this is an online prediction.
VP choice will have -- -- I think and down the row before we wrap up.
Was your choice I was -- rubio guy but I wonder if Romney is not so.
Conservatives so cautious that he will go the least resistance would be Rob Portman doubled down on -- -- Period that's what I think too I just think that it's that they really want to -- -- to the path of least resistance.
And they want someone who's ready and won't surprise them and he's just -- you know people worry about his bush.
Baggage but he doesn't have real baggage -- hit in his personal life his ability to step into that won't.
He's -- ago and -- see the appeal that hasn't Rob -- going to Israel yes.
Who isn't true.
Getting crowded over there and he should.
If you're rather proceed yet the -- -- -- -- eyes Ireland Italy and Israel and let's see if he -- Italy and Ireland.
-- I believe there there's sort of an interest in surprising split Enron and world about these deliberations and that.
You have advisors who want Romney make a very cautious and conservative -- Rob Portman will be sort of the obvious personally -- -- Johnson's name come up again other people who could sort of fit the bill.
-- and that Mitt Romney himself.
Is the one who seems to be seriously considering -- what that campaign and others consider a bold pick this one big -- Like Paul Ryan like a Marco Rubio maybe -- Bobby Jindal somebody along those lines.
Tell -- are tough so tough sell and I thought -- -- a big.
Roberts says Puerto Rico governor Luis -- to know four PP.
His name -- floated up at least by Robert.
And others whose name has come up.
And should conservative constitutional there's no I -- -- -- him from ordering him you know that he -- -- ready to be from Guam to.
Did you know I'm from here and -- I think he's eligible if he isn't.
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