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    Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld weighs in

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As -- on Hannity the Pakistani Doctor Who -- in the United States in hunting down Osama bin Laden is sentenced to 33 years in prison.

And the Obama administration proves once again that they are incapable of standing up for allies of the United States.

Now just a moment I'll be joined by former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

But first here is -- background on this developing story.

Now doctor Shaquille afridi is the Pakistani Doctor Who ran a vaccination program.

And help the CIA to verify that bin Laden was in fact at the compound in Pakistan.

-- it's widely believed that he's being held because he assisted the United States.

But according to the judgment which was obtained by Fox News -- -- is charged with providing financial and medical assistant to a militant group but -- free Stanley they're not buying it his brother Jameel told Fox News quote.

The blame has been placed on my brother because of America.

We should get justice and protection.

And earlier today -- State Department spokesman was asked about the Brothers claims -- this response.

Actually not sure that the -- actually approached us -- requesting assistance I mean you know other than.

Raising a very publicly as we've done.

-- Secretary Clinton.

You know I'm raising consistently in our meetings with Pakistani government officials.

You know it's -- -- what else we could do.

For his case but we certainly take it very seriously.

Secretary is very clear and in her remarks saying that.

You know that there is.

You have any basis for holding doctor Frieden.

I'm not a very strong response from the Obama administration but some politicians do think that there is more than the United States can do in fact Kentucky senator Rand Paul.

It's taking matters into his own hands he said he will introduce a bill.

That would halt the funding to Pakistan Intel in fact the doctor was released.

Joining me now -- reaction the author of the New York Times number one best seller known and unknown and is now out in paperback.

As of today former Defense Secretary our friend on emotional worries are terrific thanks very you don't get any trouble lately haven't been criticized that must file -- Well it's it's been -- good time for me.

You know I ask you something earlier today and get back to the story -- -- What -- you fear the most when you think of all that you know the five times you've been in and out of government.

To stay consistent Defense Secretary what do you fear the most about this the future this country.

And one of the things that race through your mind of course for things like a -- having a nuclear weapon North Korea's behavior that terrorist.

Networks that exist in the world cyber attacks.

Such -- thing that worries me the most is not any one of those things specifically.

It is the risk the danger that the United States will increasingly be seen this week.

Is he do you think under this president because of his policies.

Starting out with -- apology -- do you think that the rest of the world views -- this week.

I do I think that the the economic weakness of our country the fact that we're spending trillions of dollars we don't have.

And the president says he he's he's a thrifty spender he says you know no -- is -- is there's.

Thrifty has him in the GSA trips to Las Vegas I guess.

Punctuated -- five trillion in debt capital.

But the reality is we are modeling America on Europe and that's a failed model.

And when the world senses that the United States of America will not be the the rib cage -- stated that they fig leafs nation that contributes to peace and stability in the world.

Then you're gonna see people doing things they otherwise wouldn't think of doing and if we go ahead and have the sequestering of the budget and end up with another 40500.

Billion dollars of of cuts in the defense budget.

It totaling something in the neighborhood of a trillion dollars over the next decade.

We will find that we will not only be seen as weak.

Economically will be seen as weak militarily but and and weakness is provocative.

I weakness encourage aggression -- I agree with you.

That America has been an aggressive country like I look at American I think we defeated nazism fascism imperial Japan.

We won the Cold War and now we're leading the way and battling terrorism liberals don't see -- -- -- They've they view it well America is an aggressor nation would put the president's set on Memorial Day but you know use and implying.

That previous wars war unnecessary.

Jeane Kirkpatrick Kirkpatrick characterize that attitude has blamed the blame America first crowd is Obama part of well clearly.

He is is doesn't seem to feel that the United States has and should continue to be playing -- human -- an important role in the world and contributing to peace and stability.

And you do them not by making -- you do that not by aggression you do that by being capable.

And being seen as being capable.

Which causes other countries to avoid doing things that they would do if they saw weakness and -- increasingly we are demonstrating we are so.

We have this situation why would anybody ever help us again when they see that we abandon this guy in Pakistan and the president does nothing.

Why why would -- help us again.

Let -- even go back a step.

Why would anyone help us if somebody leaks that name and the fact that somebody might have helped us why would anybody in our government.

Leak information that suggests that a foreign national is giving us assistance -- is putting them and their families in jeopardy.

It is it is -- -- it's inexcusable.

For us to be.

Mismanaging.

Information -- that what should the president do to protect this guy that putting aside that it was leaked what should he do now.

I can I have trouble putting aside that it was leaked I just -- I it and so terrible that that that people who.

Step up and give us a hand.

Then I put in jeopardy get it because it'll it'll keep people from doing that what should you do now.

We should recognize that Pakistan is not -- agree with us on every issue I'm not sure if this was a religious court or -- Pakistani court that issued the and the judgment.

But we ought to do everything possible to assist the individual and their family and protect them from harm and and be -- responsible.

The president should lead the way I agree with you.

You know it -- every time I say what I'm about to say to you liberals on the outs like Alka-Seltzer water that bubble in phase in the so everybody got all that anarchy that's which -- -- -- kind of take great pleasure and maybe it's the dark side of Sean Hannity.

But I'm glad the president got bin Laden made the decision to get bin Laden but I -- I contend.

As do many former CIA officials and secretaries of state.

I'm sorry secretaries of defense that without rendition.

Black sites without -- -- without enhanced interrogation we -- Jose Rodriguez on this very program.

He was leading the interrogation efforts against.

Khalid Sheikh Mohamed and -- and others.

We wouldn't have gotten.

Bin Laden we would have had an opportunity we wouldn't have had the intelligence.

So in other words of Obama had his way he would never have been able to make that decision which is now out on the campaign trail bragging about.

True or false.

And nor would they have had the capabilities that hadn't been left to them by the Bush Administration.

The investment in special operation capabilities the investment in the intelligence capabilities.

Every president has available to them the capabilities left by their predecessors and then what do you think of the president politicizing the -- of -- laden when the very policies he supported would never given us -- intelligence.

What does what does that stadium I was not in the Pentagon when that.

It happened but I imagine that almost anyone in the CIA or the Pentagon had -- been grinding their teeth.

When all of this information flooded out of the White House about what was done how what was done putting at risk in my view.

Our -- our military forces and our intelligence assets.

Because of too much loose talk.

You think America.

What would it in what is your -- for Obama go four more years.

Eight years she gives a -- any administration an opportunity to -- -- through the executive branch of the government.

A great many people who believe what they -- and to the extent we have.

People in government today who have decided that they're willing to incur the kinds of trillions of dollars and death and put that crushing burden.

I'm on future generations I think we just get more of the same about the way you're number one best seller now on paper -- giving giving all the money to military calls -- I am military charities.

At every cent we've gotten from the book almost a million dollar -- it is now if indeed false happy days are very good to see it thank you so much -- -- and and the media message I think the -- -- company.

I thought I enjoyed -- I think they did to linger -- about the same reason what fighting with the all right and coming up tonight.

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