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-- I -- -- of the senior associate in the Middle East program at the Carnegie endowment.
For international peace -- joins us talk a little bit about the situation in Yemen in general so.
-- Fred let's start -- again generally speaking we'll get a little bit more specific.
Are we on the right track when it comes yeah -- -- -- be more grass say actually be less aggressive shall we have a different strategy what's your thought overall.
-- the adminstration is really pursuing.
To track approach.
On the one hand they're conducting these very surgical.
And deliberate strikes against al-Qaeda leaders.
To disrupt plots against the homeland at the same time they're trying to build up the capacity of the Yemeni government's.
To to both develop the country and go after al-Qaeda.
And you think it's working.
It says certainly the best option given the circumstances and the lessons that we learned from Iraq in Afghanistan.
Again al-Qaeda is is like a tumor it's feeding off of problems that are that are deeply ingrained in Yemen.
And this is going to be a very long struggle to read it out.
Why so long it's interesting when you look at this documentary and and this by the way is not -- -- not documentary but some footage we haven't Yemen in general it does talk about.
Al-Qaeda gaining strongholds in cities and how secretive and how they rule by fear but it also shows al-Qaeda very isolated.
And quite frankly he -- and up of the US military.
Didn't seem to be much of the battle and -- so why not be more aggressive in Yemen why not just go in there and get these guys.
Well this is a sovereign country and and al-Qaeda is exploiting.
Local grievances they know the local turf.
We saw in the film the way they've been able to take over these areas and -- And this is ultimately a problem that has to be solved by the nominees themselves as we learned.
From Iraq and Afghanistan these massive.
Nation building exercise -- to root out.
Terrorist groups simply don't doesn't work.
But the president's really not talking about nation building -- you mentioned it in and your first cancer in these targeted attacks in we've heard reports this weekend these.
These kill list.
That the present and apparently is approving or not approving depending on these high targets in places like Yemen.
You what do you think about this kill us yes -- as a sovereign country but we're obviously working with Yemen in a variety of different -- Did the kill lists are are really.
It's huge to surgically.
And very deliberately disrupts.
Plots and plans that are under way.
Certainly there's they're not without side effects says as we see from the film.
But given the circumstances I think the administration is calculating -- they're the best option do you think -- -- -- that collateral damage as well.
There's mounting evidence.
That much of the radicalization.
The Yemeni population in these provinces is because of of the drone strikes.
The drone strikes are turning.
The population against.
The US so it's not simply a fights.
Against the Yemeni government but but more and more.
Against the United States and that is certainly attracting many of these fighters.
From other countries like Somalia.
Consuming dynamics at play we've heard about -- in Yemen since early 1990s if not before that so.
They questions about the feature -- -- look for to have you back thank you very honestly tees today thank you thank you.
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