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New York City has life expectancy which is great elimination of the hole it's an increasing generate greater -- the nation as a whole.
There -- polls that show that people think them.
What we're doing is great if anything in many people who feel that was -- more to protect health so we think that this it's going to be very popular and ask.
As other things we've done which are often and just a controversial happened.
Welcome back to the -- on your host James -- Washington that was New York City health commissioner doctor Tom Farley explaining the Big Apple's new attempt under mayor Michael Bloomberg.
To band big sugary drinks citing mounting cost associated with obesity but Stefan Friedman spokesman for the New York City beverage association.
Responds and I quote the New York City health department's unhealthy obsession with attacking soft drinks is again pushing them over the top.
It's time he says for serious health professionals to move on.
And seek solutions that are actually going to curb obesity these zealots Friedman concludes of these proposed these zealous proposals just distract from hard work.
The needs to be done on this front so what about all this is this the nanny state for the 21 century in operation or is that -- responsible -- To address a growing public policy problem one perhaps with ramifications for the American global economy.
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Where you see me joining us from our Miami bureau is Neal Asbury.
Host of the radio program made in America and followers -- Twitter via Neal Asbury and from New York scene of the high calorie country -- Is doctor Howard Shapiro nutritionist and author of eat and beat diabetes with perfect weight lost my thanks to both.
-- we begin with you doctor in New York.
Why is this really necessary.
Most necessary because -- -- population that's the first thing and is necessary because obesity affects so many different diseases.
Look at diabetes for example diabetes is a number six killer in the United States -- some killer because we're -- be -- population.
If you get diabetes by the age of forty you run the risk of losing eleven of fourteen years of your life.
Children now children eleven and twelve years old are getting adult onset diabetes they're gonna lose more years of their life and this is the first generation.
That is expected to have a shorter -- spent in the previous generation so.
You know Mayor Bloomberg is not making.
Is -- -- -- government involved in this what do you basically doing is making us aware it was a press release to make us aware of how bad.
Large portions of drinks -- And I think it's okay just as important as some of the other issues and it doesn't really distract him from other issues.
Neal -- is there -- some proper role for the government in trying to curb the health care cost another public policy problems associated with obesity.
Well not in this sort of weigh in as you said in lead up to this segment this is the rise of the mini state and -- a big fan of Mayor Bloomberg.
And I just can't believe that he got involved in this -- not -- to government bureaucrats to -- -- -- What we should drink I mean it'll look probation is over I wish.
That everybody would be doing shots of wheat grass and drinking -- water but it's not up to the government to tell us to do that.
I had that there is other ways -- health education.
And by the -- the soft drink industry if it's something that's a good industry it's -- employees American people.
And look what they're only they're only saying that they can't drink go what -- -- 24 ounces so called soft drinks.
But how about other beverages like margaritas can we bring 24 ounce -- is -- margaritas.
And how about those -- that I love of the Carnegie deli I mean if we beat one of those every day we're gonna clog -- arteries so where does this stop.
It is just not the role of the government to be telling us we shouldn't drink these soft drinks there's other ways of public education and health education to -- -- children.
You know you'll thank you there -- David Larson chats to us that is overreach by the -- the next thing you -- see him doing is telling them there how to think.
Is it it doesn't he'll raise a good point doctor Shapiro doesn't -- and raise a good point in that.
There's lots of unhealthy things out there in society but the government can't be in the business of for closing all of them for us to have -- -- mean.
The government just as no I'm sorry and could go ahead they that this is a practical matter -- the government's not in the business of for closing anything it's not sort of impede the the soft drink industry this doesn't have any effect -- would sold in stores.
If he's not telling you that you can't buy solar Tracy's just limiting what you get in venues Blake in a stadium more in a theater.
These portions are gigantic there enormous the ridiculous.
And it does cause a health issue it is not stopping the amount of service of sold any store.
You don't buy a margaritas and drink them all day but we have children and we have families that are buying sodas and drink it in place of water all day long that's the problem.
We don't drink milk -- so they you don't have to address that and you can't address everything -- just one thing at a time.
Which is why.
When Mayor Bloomberg addressed the smoking in restaurants everybody was against it and now they're not against and it did help reduce the disease.
It's why we -- you mention that you should put.
Labels on on calories on foods that people respond to -- because they're educated all we're doing is trying to educate.
People I don't understand why -- -- -- afraid of it let me just show you what -- Very rarely win but this is the parent's role.
It's select the -- role is to is to raise their kids they don't let them know what's right and wrong is -- mayor Bloomberg's role to tell our children urgent is it isn't it about had it done.
No it's basically it's Mayor Bloomberg who wants to take on a challenge just like.
-- they've played legislatively it's just nice that's just like the president's wife.
To make of the adults aware because adults are not aware these children are not -- in fifteen years they're gonna have children and they're not aware and that's -- we have an obese population.
-- -- they generally let host your jump in actually of the host -- Can you read this teach shots I'm gonna sneak over to and Jake.
New Jersey to get my big -- Neill is -- not.
Is they're not -- found some valid reason for the government to see this as a public policy problem.
The more obese people we have the higher the health care cost.
The problems we have in the hospitals.
The administrative burden of it is and there's some role for the government to try to curb these sorts of problems.
But an and we have alcoholics as well and we have people he -- we too much suites and pastries.
But -- -- -- does -- stop that's what I wanna know where does it stop.
-- -- the government now outlaw all white bread I mean where does it stop I I would like the mayor didn't think this should have this is wrong and and to tell the parents.
That you need to educate your children and you shouldn't be buying these sorts of things.
But until legislated it to do -- in this sort of way it's just plainly wrong this is the rise of the -- they just across the river New Jersey in Fort -- two weeks ago the City Council.
Is outlawing walking intact sting and again that the rise of the nanny state we see that the city we see -- -- the state.
And we -- at the federal level if it is wrong.
Don't take away the role of the parent and that's what -- okay that Mayor Bloomberg is trying.
Do just let me say one thing you have to educate the parents let me show you one thing are you aware of how much sugar is in one of these -- This is the size of the drink that I used to have when I was a kid it's eight ounces.
This is the portion.
That is sold now and venues let me show you how much sugar.
And I am sure none of you were aware of this is and now we love props one a heads wondering how how about an -- they screen call and how much sugars or do we -- -- -- -- -- we have solid ice cream -- all day long but we drink.
Doctor Shapiro let me ask your question here Neal was very has just -- in essence these slippery slope argument.
You yourself have said call this part of a natural progression you've suggested that first Mayor Bloomberg tried to regulate -- with success.
Smoking in bars and now he's moved on to big sugary drinks.
What would you sir as someone who professes to be concerned about public health issues what would you next like to see.
Public authorities like mayors of big cities tackle but they haven't tackled yet we're talking about tobacco sugary drinks what should come next -- -- -- Well I you know I think the portion sizes should come next and we're not mandating that people should have small portions but look at what the portions -- in this country today first of all.
Families are are eating gigantic portions people come from your from look at this wouldn't they're appalled.
Secondly -- all the food has high in fat high in calories it's fast food both parents work.
There's lots of issues to to address.
But so you think that McDonald's and burger king and Wendy's and so forth.
Should properly be the subject of governmental -- of some -- not necessarily I think that we should talk about portions first I think we should show people.
That you don't have to have a gigantic portion look at the difference between a bottle of soda and what we're serving today and think about what we're gonna be serving in five or ten years from now people be drinking out of buckets like courses because to be a little ridiculous.
Things get bigger all the time we are getting bigger is a population all the time that health issues in this country or worse all the time and nobody nobody is mandating anything.
It's education it's making an awareness and apparently.
Every -- our area.
Neal -- we have about thirty seconds left and wanna get -- you.
What are you afraid it will come next you talk about the slippery slope.
What will come next what realistically speaking where do you think the people on the opposite side of the aisle from you on this issue are gonna target their efforts next.
We could come from anywhere and and it it it can really come from anywhere.
And actually I can't answer that question because I'm always amazed at the next thing that they come up -- I mean -- next that you know is there too much rather the big Mac can now you can only buy one per person.
I mean what it where does that go from here I mean pastry shops takes.
I -- many different industry all right if you don't do it in moderation I mean everybody must learn moderation and I understand that but it's not the government's role.
To dictated to us okay that -- it's -- it's a parent's role to educate.
Well we love moderation everywhere except in cable news and where we love to have a -- extreme views.
Thank you both very much for articulating for -- -- -- very -- have made in America on radio and doctor Howard Shapiro nutritionist and author.
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