Why couldn't Edwards' jury reach a verdict?
Jury on their decision
- Duration 11:12
- Date Jun 1, 2012
Jury on their decision
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-- we have the John Edwards -- right here in our studio all eight of them to be exact and they are breaking their silence today less than 24 hours after a judge declared a mistrial -- that decision was handed down yesterday.
Nine days into deliberations after jurors were unable to reach unanimous decision on five of the six counts and today while not that case appears to be closed for good.
Some of the twelve individuals who had the fate of the former presidential candidate in their hands are now here tonight.
In our studio.
Tell their story joining me now in studio the largest group of jurors that have sat down together since the verdict was announced the jury Foreman.
Dave where Sean is here and -- Teresa Fuller Sheila Lockwood Jonathan none Cindy a quarrel.
Well Donna Foster and jury alternates.
-- Peterson and any space.
What he -- all -- And our stats -- all get a Leo first of all let me let me -- I mean this sincerely I don't speak for a lot of people you had how many weeks of your life.
Did you now devote to this starts.
With 66 weeks six weeks a long time that's a big sacrifice.
And I you know we are really lucky to have individuals in this country that are willing to serve as all of you have been put your lives on hold.
So thank you all for your for your hard work.
I I appreciate you being here -- let's what first of all I understand the alternate juror that was flirting.
Thank that the same alleged by saying -- what was that all about don't.
I'm a happy on the normal basis and I think they just.
Misconstrued my smiling all right so did -- when you guys read that story.
Because you -- come pretty close friends what did you think when you heard that now that.
Resonant story and wasn't a story.
Not a silly it's -- you -- you think did you think it was funny.
At first -- little worried -- actor -- my husband and I was like necessarily funny how.
And did they think it was funny you need to adding it was just ridiculous death.
All right you don't look.
Let's start with.
That the you'd hear the testimony.
You're hearing all the back and forth -- the prosecution's case the defense case.
You walk into the jury room and obviously made a decision to make -- the -- Let me ask your fellow jurors -- -- that happen.
The first -- -- got in the jury room.
That how was announced announcements oh that's right -- actually.
There was a decision that was made.
Several of us to nominate -- And and that's what we did you know and he except it and the accent and and it would it was just study just.
Seem like a jury Foreman and it was a ready -- -- they had it.
And he would take charge kind of got hit -- -- -- very fair and it and honest in exactly take charge and that -- there.
Any -- you know look obviously on five of the six charges.
You could not come to agreement.
How many he thought he knew that John Edwards was guilty.
I think the credibility.
Was an issue.
And we saw that with Andrew Young we felt like there was -- credibility gap there.
I felt the same way with John Edwards so I personally looked at the evidence that was delivered.
The all of the witness those witnesses that were delivered.
And when you pull all of that together with the instructions from the judge it just it -- look like there were some things added up.
The issue however was connecting all the dots.
By the prosecution -- we none of us -- many of us did not feel with that was the case and you thought.
Hugh is not guilty and I did thank you Nike I think even what do you think -- -- not guilty not guilty.
Guilty not guilty not guilty -- -- Guilty.
Why did you think he was guilty.
I think you risk -- -- he knew about it that there just wasn't there evidence there to prove it prove it -- what was the final.
The final vote on guilt or innocence through that.
Which hung you up.
And in other words what was the final when you had a final tally and -- had to tell judgment we are hung here we just can't come to a conclusion was a vote at that point.
Ever every count was a little bit different.
So certain counts there was.
Nine and I can't remember all of the numbers but it was probably a little bit heavier weighted on certain counts 3814.
Now eleven to one down for -- on one of the accounts on what -- was it.
Remember that laws I think that was classic that was five or 65 or six.
Fusing and maybe because we almost have an equal split among you in terms of guilt and innocence which is pretty fascinating to me.
If we look at federal election law it defines -- as you all know now a campaign contribution is anything of value.
Provided for the purpose of influencing the outcome of a national.
Or federal election.
Now to meet the keywords are in London from shore for all of you is -- -- of value for the purpose of influence the outcome of his presidential.
So you think not guilty so let's go through a little bit of the evidence here.
So all of this money was given to hide this.
Relationship with a real -- Right house -- they'll start with you all this money was given this -- basically.
Would that not influence what -- you think not guilty there.
I just didn't think that there was evidence that proved it was actually campaign contribution.
And -- -- -- the law of the wording of the law which is typical right you make a good case there.
Will -- it isn't that money in the sense wasn't given do you think he does that one -- that he had knowledge of it.
I still that he did evidence wasn't there but he's human eye is yeah I -- -- -- -- Totally -- you called the evidence was there it.
But you in your heart you believe that he knew -- I felt that he was guilty and I felt like he had some knowledge but again the proof wasn't there so therefore I had to -- much are you gonna say something.
Oh I was gonna sort of the evidence when there from yes -- and what wasn't their field.
Eight it was a just -- so.
If I mean it was nothing there there it.
They showed me.
Bit okay you have he's guilty -- was nothing I didn't see any thing them.
And you fellow juror thought he was guilty what was it -- -- that let -- you think that he was guilty.
I thought he knew about it but the evidence was not there because the money was never -- John Edwards hands it was and Bryan -- Cheri young and then.
It was in the young patent.
You know when that when the jury -- wouldn't we heard that.
You guys that the report initial report was that you came to a verdict.
And then we found that in fact -- only come to a verdict on one count.
And when I heard that it was the count that of 2008.
And bunny Mellon money we call it that you know bunny money and -- I thought at that time that you found him guilty because that was the most recent.
But then it turned out that what -- was that the one charge that you set decided to quit on.
I'll say there was a timing issue there.
So that count and was specific related to 2008.
And the activities.
Did not all fit into that 2008 time -- -- he really that yes yes the president was very short excellent.
There one thing what it will get into this we get back to do all of you see John Edwards.
After the verdict.
Did you all see that when he came -- and -- -- there I want to show let's segment of that.
Where Edwards talks about for the first time acknowledging.
The his daughter Quinn and secondly Edwards admitting he -- a lot of wrong things.
Just not the misuse of campaign money controlled -- state.
And then finally my precious win.
Who I love.
More than any of you could ever imagine.
And I am so close to and so it's.
So grateful for -- I'm grateful for All My Children.
While I do not believe that did anything illegal -- ever thought I was doing anything illegal.
I did an awful awful lot that was wrong.
And there is no one else.
For my stance.
None of the people -- came to court and testified.
But nobody working for the government is responsible.
I am responsible.
What did you think of that.
I'll I'll save.
The idea of saying that you're responsible.
That tied in to what.
lol was trying to say which was there's a difference between those -- And that you know that personal issue that he had and the illegal activity and I think that's what he was alluding to.
-- -- Mom I side.
I think this was the first time that he felt he could in front of all of his family.
Claimed responsibility for all the wrong that he had done and apologized publicly to all this failing.
I agree with that and it it was a time when he could step up and claim what he had done in Van Halen and take -- -- -- when I had.
As -- showed -- that he he definitely -- and he.
Felt about his keys and was care about his family and his and his children.
-- Fred Thompson said you know.
There was you know love and praise for his family in that God's not finished with him.
And and he's talking about his future here -- and you know all of these things.
There's a part of me that was a little cynical laughter that -- cynical little that's quite a little.
Over -- -- well not quite sure.
I'm sure that he was since the I'm sure -- sorry I'm sure that if he had to do it all over again.
It will be done a totally different way sorry did or is -- sorry got caught -- different people think it.
Yeah I'm sure how many -- you found him.
Not a likeable figure.
You raise your hands if he didn't think.
Many of compassion for him.
You did you felt he was genuinely sorry.
You have that helps our phone situation that if you don't and so fan -- think this was a case of prosecutorial.
Overreach do you think they should've brought the case in the first place.
-- yet you voted guilty.
Why that's that's that's that's interesting to me this of knowing concept.
I mean we know that he knew about the -- so how can you prove what someone how things.
But Kenny -- -- but actions.
And you know -- this is -- -- is this really gets to the core of what jurors do.
And on wanna get back in the jury room a little bit more and and talk about your experience has really appreciate you being here well and come -- --