Unions' final push to unseat Gov. Walker
Will recall effort succeed?
- Duration 8:38
- Date Jun 2, 2012
Will recall effort succeed?
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Well they say that cash is -- but when it comes to union spending green in Wisconsin it might not be enough to take the -- Hi everybody welcome us heels of that on a box on top of the money of the badger state.
Three days away now from Republican governor Scott Walker's recall election.
Reports are that union groups have already poured more than eight million bucks to get about.
But walker actually widening his lead -- -- democratic challenger Tom Barrett in the latest polls.
And -- -- poised to bump 100 million bucks to help get Democrats across the country elected in November.
Is Wisconsin there Waterloo selling us that money might not be everything.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- The union money cannot compete with the enthusiasm.
That's going on in Wisconsin from -- -- grassroots groups if you look.
And Governor Walker -- percent of his political donations are under fifty dollars so this is just like ten -- from regular -- twenty dollars fifteen dollars.
And there's just a lot of enthusiasm there which is great because unions are basically exhausting their resource says.
An energizing the conservative movement out Wisconsin.
On in -- polls are one thing that the actual vote is Tuesday.
But if it goes that way that they lose.
A lot of union members who are sort of chafing Charles it.
Did their -- going to have to do this might start nationally rethinking things haven't.
Literally -- you know what the Democrats probably going to be really really think they've made a big mistake they thought this is gonna be -- moment.
That this will be there what's the point that they will win this in that the union movement would somehow be reenergize I gotta -- -- something.
-- absolutely right about the money thing look at.
-- the mid term.
An M Wisconsin right -- -- -- union membership did the fall completely apart and it's the same unions that put milk.
The millions they borrow money and still couldn't by the mid term election.
This right here I tell you what this is frightening stuff -- they've got the money -- Liberal Democratic Party but they don't control the outcome.
I mean I look at this not really as liberal conservatives -- conservatives winning out and you know grassroots Tea Party I think this is a referendum.
-- what's going on in the country right now right now people are scared to death.
About debt not so much taxes but really about the mountains of debt and that there's runaway spending and if if you if it -- this is why I believe.
The Obama administration is going -- -- far hard left.
And on those social issues because they have a real problem which sort of -- -- issues like get the country right now is worried that we're moving towards Greece.
This is a referendum on this this is a purple state.
Reverend Democrats usually win this state you know sometimes it'll go back as 1988 -- write it but what is -- and this is this is this is a referendum.
Our Ben Stein the union money involved here if it should fail to get the result it wants.
Then -- I think -- -- an inflection point views Charles's.
Extraordinarily good phrase against the unions union members of his falling apart not only the private sector -- -- started to correct downward.
In the public sector union money has never won an election.
It's not gonna win this -- according to the polls -- I think mr.
Obama should be extremely worried unions -- is not going to pull him out of -- Fact the truth the painful truth that he has been office now for forty months.
And the economy is still in a terrible terrible dive.
I he has not been able to achieve anything like what he said he -- -- He said yes he can no we can't he said change no not changes the same Democrat while deficit spending I think this election is going to show that.
Even with the unions pulling out all the stops of people see the truth of the democratic solution is not working out -- But that we're having a horribly lopsided conversation here first of all -- -- money -- Money money isn't the only factor -- an election I don't have the numbers at my fingertips I wish I did but we haven't -- anything.
About what the other side whoever that is is spending in favor of walker.
At one more point I want to make it's no surprise that the unions would quote pull out all the stops against Scott Walker he pulled out all the stops against them.
You know I'm not making any judgments how many people right -- Alabama -- -- -- right after him although I'm not finished -- to they would they went they went right out.
There has you know I think it's something.
But we had given that he didn't look -- saying but it's a Wisconsin thing right now knows at first thought that -- didn't pull out all the stops how many people as he laid off from public sector unions.
He that's pulling out all the stops he he he traveling -- policy -- where they may not something not okay he made some marginal changes to collective bargaining.
He's taking steps to rein in the fact that if you listen.
If you're fired and I mean I love fireman but man you know after twenty years you shouldn't get you know three quarters salary you know I'm saying I mean.
That is guaranteed pensions I mean when we can -- yeah.
-- -- as well.
A little -- also secure but I do wanna address not you know -- did say it -- Scott Walker went too far.
People accompanied to vote on whether they -- they want -- be part of a union is diseases in damaging or not is is in the united beholder but.
The show up.
Is that -- sense here that -- the unions do sale here again we don't know yet.
That they're gonna look a little bit like a paper tiger and other words -- they've looked sort of like.
But a bullet proof senate that that they were money and they could certainly bring out you know the the resources to bring out the vote but it.
They might look vulnerable now they might look like so like the end of the wizard of as he realized just an old Dubai on the curtain not nearly -- -- to people made about a.
Certainly -- and at individual just now talked about how much money Scott -- getting in my hand and these are small donations needed to nominate a little small they're not that he's got a lot of under money is -- but it's a lot of young -- both getting big money so that -- -- How big a deal that's that's my point.
Well I think that you know this is this isn't gonna have a huge impact on unions and like I said it's an exhaust their -- is -- this is great for the GOP and for Romney because now unions won't have the resource says.
To throw all hinted at the Obama campaign.
You know jail the one and I think we hosted that once if this is a crucial point I think there's the assumption that union votes are always democratic votes.
But the fact of the matter is Scott -- popularity.
Hazards it if you look at New Jersey.
Our Chris Christie's popularity -- -- -- union council.
Across the board and -- outright majority private -- not -- when it well there are existing receivables -- if but I can't say Charles is there's something to that it may be -- -- this is a monolithic liberal bastion and it's not.
I think -- a lot of people are saying in Wisconsin.
How many people -- leaving them about the public sector unions it is absolutely amazing what he's done is he's given them something that we all enjoy.
Democratic choice and -- democratic choice I can actually lead the union I'm not forced to pay dues because I have a specific job that's amazing and people people liked and.
And we have to have -- dignity -- you don't attorneys shortly you're absolutely.
The dead end.
It didn't -- assumption that the union -- largely liberal is completely wrong does -- -- remember back this sixties and seventies remember when George Wallace.
Hey as extreme racist and not a great person morally one enormous majorities of the union membership vote in states as diverse as Wisconsin are gone and Massachusetts.
So that that it cannot be -- -- but that's but that's -- that I.
I've I think he got -- -- -- private sector union public and my dad was a construction worker worker not a racist voted for Richard Nixon.
Was a Democrat but it's different public sector unions.
Did -- never gonna move to Republicans never they may not matter but they never going to be because.
Never gonna why does it really wouldn't regret is totally disagree I've never met a democratic policeman or fireman right ever in my -- keep they keep what Jerry Brown an office and guys like got a hell yeah.
Right I finally had about final -- Well I'm I'm from Chicago where there are plenty of democratic firemen and policemen we can't have it both ways here either they're on death's door -- the the most powerful interest group in America I don't think either one is true and I don't think one election.
Is going to be a referendum on yeah.
-- already existing -- because it was a little more than a month ago -- a lot of prominent Democrats are saying.
This was a crucial battleground and then when they started seeing the -- this figures and some important it's really not that big a deal.
-- You have to.
That's what I do I -- at bats and gloves and I.
Or or a sort of a moment of silence -- is so.
Then there is.