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Folks Peter Johnson junior is an attorney in a Fox News legal analyst.
It's unbelievable deal I'm on it's just as they went chest to check back in the west nailed back in the day Saddam that's I'm on my words exchanged -- had to be broken up by Valerie yeah it takes a strong woman to -- -- lead but see that.
Part I believe this story it is quite incredible and still -- book details this alleged confrontation.
At the White House after cabinet meeting.
We're David Axelrod came after the attorney general holder and said listen you're trying to say that I'm trying to influence.
The Justice Department you cut out.
I'm not Carl world and and David Axelrod just loves to trash called growth -- -- -- history attraction -- that's a quote in the book I don't know our electoral.
Holder allegedly said.
And he said it in its fullest not the polite version not the polite version cell.
Who's still it was politics here a lot of -- and say you know the -- the Department of Justice is really one of the most political American history.
Perhaps it was not as political.
Or differently political then what mr.
Axelrod -- want it.
To be obviously there's always a dynamic tension between the departments of government.
And the political advisors to -- president and they want to influence as much as they possibly can.
How -- department is run but clearly.
Clearly a political advisors not supposed influence.
Who gets prosecuted who doesn't get prosecuted what kind decisions are made about election law and the like and we do -- -- New York Times story.
That talked about so called terror to -- days.
It alleged that mr.
Axelrod was participating in White House meetings.
With regard to counter terrorism by top political advisors sitting in sitting at a meeting yes that -- denying that.
Sort of welcome foundation not exactly but sort of hey you know it it seemed they denied it then.
But people in congress still want to know why and and they will find out who was attending these meetings on specific.
Axelrod -- had a profound influence.
On this precedent and helping at the present elected.
But -- -- -- that the DOJ because again of the DOJ has -- has come under withering criticism under Eric Holder you know and to be fair to mr.
holder as it did it.
Under President Bush is you know when he was president.
When is in particular John Ashcroft was running the show over there and attorney general Gonzales thing between general Gonzales ultimately -- and did you go back and look at John Mitchell when Nixon administration and Robert Kennedy in the cancer -- the positioning is ripe for criticism enter politics and that's right and and people don't like to see the nation's top law enforcement officer get political with -- just there is law and justice is -- -- -- decisions.
The question is whether mr.
Axelrod one of the DOJ to become more political.
And whether it is a political entity right now under mr.
-- -- because they talk a lot about how he took such umbrage.
At the fact that there might be political meddling and medical want to talk about how he ultimately got very depressed in 2010 and reportedly considered quitting.
Yeah that he was so despondent that he wanted to get out and Valerie Jarrett who allegedly broke up this flight went -- -- and said listen.
It's gonna hurt you heard the present -- believe two years into this administration.
There is this dynamic tension that we talks we we talk about.
Is the -- -- Justice Department innately political -- declines to the prosecute.
Black Panthers in Florida.
Or Philadelphia is an innately political when it makes decisions.
With regard to how.
How -- is going to be prosecuted whether in New York.
Or -- Guantanamo Bay voting IP environment all of these the different issues not enforcing the defense of marriage act or not I mean there's always a political component.
But it appears that mr.
-- -- believed if this account.
Is to be credited and -- role as you point out there was not really come full throated denial that we heard and face the nation quite that.
If it's to be credited then obviously.
He's one not Karl Rove.
But he didn't deny that he was entrusted in placing political appointees.
In the Justice Department.
To -- but it but that they -- that is what the fight was about yeah with is that he was.
That Eric Holder was allegedly accusing him of that and he was denying it when they went chest to chest my question you before -- Dirk is is would it be unusual I mean if the if the DOJ as political if it is poet has been politicized under this administration.
You tell me is that unusual.
-- -- should be and usually it's not as it's like I think I think.
Under this administration we've seen.
The extent of it and it's sometimes.
What I'm happy to see here is Eric Holder saying all I'm not going to be.
Political and and standing up and he's a big guy.
But he was the -- you know co captain of the basketball team at Columbia.
Well maybe maybe little clear skies a high school through May be Axelrod enacts -- -- he didn't make -- -- I don't think that was gonna be a fair fight back out who's gonna win that fight illegal acts of.
I do anything else Valerie Jarrett.
You've got to Illinois and then again it it doesn't do you think you sir look it backpack and and we'll coming up last week's.
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