Candidates’ Corner: Wisconsin recall election
The ‘Campaign Insiders’ on how the situation in Wisconsin is a good indicator for the election in November
- Duration 12:14
- Date Jun 4, 2012
The ‘Campaign Insiders’ on how the situation in Wisconsin is a good indicator for the election in November
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I'm John affiliate with -- packet -- Doug shown -- campaign insiders have a lot to do because tomorrow -- 5 is the biggest event in months really.
As a predictor of November.
Is that Wisconsin recall of the governor the lieutenant governor three state senators and there's a special election for a fourth state senator also tomorrow so.
It doesn't get any coverage the state senate could switch control to the Democrats tomorrow -- walker gets us saves is -- never enough.
So let's put on the screen where were -- with this thing and then we're gonna talk about the ramifications.
The Wisconsin recall vote as of a week ago the average we put up slide number seven.
Is averaging 51.
And mayor Barrett of Milwaukee 44 point four multiple that -- from a -- about that way in every poll about seven.
There's one new poll from BP PPP had an earnings to two and -- have great.
-- -- -- so so let us look at this thing tomorrow and then we'll go to the bigger effects.
We all think Governor Walker survives tomorrow.
Do pat that's.
The scope of a thousand -- look.
It looks at work here is something very important turn out of the ordinary.
And I think you'll be beyond anything we you've seen in recent years.
Moved it also by the way it'll be interesting to see it may be the first impact.
Of both parties and point out won't call in which no one is saying yeah I mean -- will be the first kids to do it you know -- haven't had.
But what you had six months ago when labor in the Democratic Party went in and recalled got the signatures 900000 signatures.
The win was to their back everybody said this is the way it's going same with Occupy Wall Street all of this.
Since then there's been significant push back.
That they are now being underdogs at least we'll we will see they have put -- huge amount labor's got everything on the lawn.
As does an -- to Democrats -- -- huge of metabolic campaign where the president has stayed out.
Which is upset some people.
There organization they've -- put tremendous vote or even a little Little -- Human picked up on -- point -- that practice the president stayed out Bill Clinton's been in it.
Clinton spoke unity bipartisanship.
Obama's running negative ads.
The White House is taking a hands off approach it says to Democrats and two unions please help me but I won't help you and -- parent loses by.
A small -- it will be indisputable that some people on the ground will say but for Obama's reticence to get involved we might want.
Yeah all about that's for sure if it's close.
People come in her head in -- and they lose too -- for heavy criticism because the big questions going to be you know it is what it says -- everyone -- in -- This president doesn't care about I but I don't want.
I let's let's go to slide number ten -- that brings us to this which is in the general election as of today Obama is 49.
Governor Romney 44 point three in the state of Wisconsin but there was a poll we -- -- the -- dead even at forty or even its -- -- before the job numbers all before the job numbers and of course the recall thing is gonna read -- everything.
We the three of us agree pat you -- it on -- call we had.
That if Romney wins Wisconsin he -- presidency.
And right now -- is it is a competitive state I've seen numbers.
What more likely voters are much closer than than than the five point margin -- sort through Martin we're seeing their five point.
-- he is -- -- I think it's indisputable Wisconsin could be very important.
-- let's talk about let's say this thing happens tomorrow and -- we're gonna do this in our predictions section but.
Just the ramifications.
Around the country so as from the Republican side let me say.
The Republicans are really hot to trot on this thing because the pendulum swung too far in the favor of public service unions.
With excluding police and firefighters but really all public school teachers and -- some of those benefits remember -- -- -- in California they retired it people but it.
Or 90% and I get a deal like that -- I wish I could write well and my point -- -- -- on the right.
That -- is a target like Reagan used to go after the welfare queen that was his big thing I think the new target is government workers and let's put up.
Slide number four.
This is done by a -- -- Is it honorable to work for the government or more honorable work for the government -- -- private sector 15% say AM more armed worked for the government the rest don't think so.
I think it's a it's a best.
That number that would have been much different thirty years yeah and after the GSA.
Videotape from all the -- -- -- this government will look this is a racket going on.
You know as -- -- -- in the business where you give.
Where you've given and there's a new book coming up on our back advocates and it's amazing revelations about some of these state.
You don't win you were able to give money to the people you're negotiating with lots of money to get him elected and they give it back he would reduce collection.
That was the Big Three do's and I'm sure that's why -- walk -- got.
Elected for that kind of -- stop that stop that there right.
But I think maybe I think as a Republican I think he went a little to -- -- way he handled was so it was so many issues he went a little too far.
Now we have the recall have the unions gone too far in pushing the recall.
When I -- I think things went too far but beyond that -- if you play the game and get 900000 signatures.
You have to do everything possible to win and if they lose.
The impact is pat was suggesting I think you were suggesting to -- be Republicans of embolden.
Our people who were back -- it last year.
Cannot be underestimated right before we -- -- Actions we have -- a comment from BSL.
Senior tomorrow's Wisconsin election is so important.
That they expect a sixty to 65%.
When you want to know why the same idiots keep getting reelected just look at the above number.
Even -- all 100% of us -- fact is only a little over 50% of us normally bother to vote you think it's higher than sixty.
Or someone I -- -- pretty -- that's pretty that's DM high because this is a special election.
It's not on the calendar -- all of this will boost turnout will be.
Politically a pretty bad but there are a lot of voters I think -- -- in conflict through organized they or not financial Wisconsin community -- predictions I'm not.
Predicting on -- -- you guys are I'll get mine out of the way first I hit it hit me after the jobs report on Friday.
That was the turning point of the 2012 election.
Romney is and I believe he'll pick Portman he is the next president of the United States.
John I'm not sure you're right about that I'm not ready to close the deal deal but -- Wisconsin I'm ready to offer.
Two to three point.
Margin I think it'll be tighter than some of the polls last week suggested I think labor's geo TV effort will.
Night and you know -- narrow the gap.
In the recall.
And I think it'll be for you don't.
Two to 43 points for Governor Walker I think it will hurt President Obama but I'm not ready to.
You know buried him.
Politically yet I will say -- to trade -- sister whatever that thing is our online yesterday they had the biggest brought back the party numbers yes when Obama went from 59%.
Picking him to win the 53 and one day it is probably gone down.
The of -- -- Wisconsin let me say that I think you know Walker's gonna win I I think.
Yeah it it would be a huge upset that he did but the question is by how much if it's a big victory.
Then the devastation Q what labor's priorities is Doug was saying.
What it says about the presidential become substantial.
The real test is -- -- closer I think we will find out what -- things being tested is just how important is this vaunted ground game both legal footing.
In the Obama campaign.
And we will see it if it's closer I think -- be do that more than any switch in attitude but the one thing that if that -- who wins but what you said.
We -- the issue that would decided.
People who didn't like walker but he decided they didn't like the recall they thought that went to form right Obama fans.
Who say we made -- like walker -- we don't like having new elections every time you disagree with somebody I don't know.
I probably still have a minute left for Stoops as slide number six involvement talking about this this is a Rasmussen poll a week ago -- they asked the voters.
Do you think Obama and Romney are the two best candidates for the job.
Only one out of fought.
Say did it to best nominees 64%.
Say their visitor possible can this -- -- People -- disable -- better candidates these numbers tell you the gap that we keep talking about the -- let me -- today Gallup poll shows independent even more than any other group.
Saying that they think that -- children's futures going to be in trouble Doug says this conflict.
Nobody will talk about the big issues in the big question and John if there's one thing that I think we.
Invalidated in since we began about a year ago this crime -- -- I think it's we should take a little time for self congratulation.
We said that the American people were angry.
We said that -- they wanted as pat suggested big issues discussed and I think -- you should weigh in as a means of closing the show.
On how the political system whether you come -- and as a Republican.
-- a former Democrat.
Media -- with these issues.
It's not working.
I I just -- as a lifelong.
Political observer and participant I I lost all faith in the two parties the leadership of the two parties including my own I looked at what happened in the last administration.
And I have no hope that the next whom would be any better they don't play the game right they pay their motivations are wrong -- allowed himself -- I'm still -- believe -- -- -- let me just tell you this.
You know what these people do not put America first they don't I took.
I can't disagree with that and I can't disagree with you John I can only say sadly we all.
From whatever perspective we take agree that the political parties we grew up -- we have are not represented our best of America.
Like a big part of it it it with you two guys has an exception are the people that do your did your job -- do it now.
Pollsters consultants advisors these candidates come along and they spent all day combing their there.
And listening to these guys telling you wanna when you -- do this you gotta do that gonna sell your soul to these guys for money.
And no one has the -- adds to stand up and say I'm doing it my or -- Eight and the American people -- -- -- they think -- -- -- -- says they have covered until the people you're covenant nothing but contempt for the American people.
-- -- very quickly.
We have to go but I will quickly say.
That we have so many comments that we couldn't get to them because we had too much to talk about today.
This guy and a Mike Carter says I remember at this time in 2008 Obama and Clinton were still contending for the democratic nomination.
The general election is just beginning now on like 2008.
And the incumbent president is already tied with the Republican.
And the economy is falling backward.
I'm not sure being tied for Romney.
At this point is so worrisome level and fairly I think that's that's the -- there thinking that is right which is why Romney's not saying anything any sort of created herself -- -- struggle what.
You may work but I wanna tell you any time you're in this game that you're the challenger that you're playing hold the ball.
Goodell has one point that we've been making all of us it's not about winning.
It's about governing right and you can't win the way they're running and -- to cover up how he has governed is a result of how you've got a -- and down on the monitor and.