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From Madison Wisconsin this is a do or die the final hours before voters in this state decide.
Whether to make their governor of the third to go down to recall that date there have only been three in American history.
It didn't fare well for those other two Scott Walker hopes to make -- the exception today.
Welcome everybody I'm Neil give it -- coming here from the badger state weather right now both sides are -- each other and trying to take advantage.
Above both that it's too close to call -- -- Republican governor Scott Walker telling me earlier today.
He's confident he will win out he's confident he says because the trend is his friend the economy is picking up the unemployment rate is coming down.
He says all because of the very measures that have led -- this new recall election now.
But Governor Walker reminding me he's -- he's ready and he's gonna survive Governor Walker earlier today.
Governor -- added how to hold it up until well voice a little bit short but -- that everything else is doing well.
Polling is always all over the map didn't -- and wide.
Potential swings for error here.
But it looks good thus far -- if you win.
What do you think it needs.
Well I think it's it's a victory for courage now here Wisconsin but I think across the country.
For years I've heard people tell me voters tell me didn't that it was Democrat -- Republican like people complaining.
The politicians the local level state level particularly at the national level.
Didn't have the courage they have the guts to take on tough issues and that's everybody knows we have to take these issues -- The politicians -- they get office failed to do that.
To me this victory tomorrow would be a victory.
For every morning to everyone across the country -- and in a local government the state -- and even those people like my friend Paul -- Washington trying to do includes courageous thing.
He would be a victory to say that voters really do mean when they said it was to take on the tough issues what did you get that Barack Obama has not been here.
Well I think it's interesting for for all the hyping -- President Clinton was here we go and they asked -- -- I said it's more interest in me that when the president United States.
Is literally just on the other side it's -- great river in Minnesota.
In -- Twin Cities when he was about the same time in Chicago just south of the Wisconsin border.
It was a Marine One triple way yeah I think it's really it's kind of confusing I think to voters here because.
They wonder why would you come in two years ago my saint sabres are running it's now with my -- -- -- And he came hitting campaign for the mayor at that point I think it's a sign there's real concern -- what I've seen over the weekend which are voters who tell me they voted for my opponent.
Or they tell whether Democrats.
But in each case they tell me the voting for me now either because they like the courage to take on the tough problems.
-- number of over Democrats tell me they don't like the recall process but my guess is the president and his folks.
Just want to shy away from that was weird governor wanna look at polls senior state did show.
You and the president in -- -- roughly the same fifty plus percent approval ratings.
That's from here if well our state like many in the midwest.
Is fiercely independent we're not strictly one party or the other people like to vote for the person.
-- so I think some was driven by that it had.
And I think part of it now is voters like that we were able to tech tackle these tough issues remember it's -- A year and a half that I've been under siege every last February and march.
The national special interest groups from Washington particular given to pour money attacking me.
Bringing people when -- attacked me that continue throughout the spring in the Supreme Court race the state senate recall elections in the summer.
And all throughout last fall and early this year in terms of recall petition itself we've been under about a year and a half source of attacks.
And yet we finally got their numbers up above 50% because the truth is -- -- when people hear the truth when they see the facts when they see that are reforms are working that is tough -- -- your opponents as the reforms aren't working and then it's a battle how many jobs are created -- stock created.
Clearly the unemployment rate has ticked down six point 7% in the latest read -- below the national average and that's the wind at your back.
If it's a close election.
Even with the wind at your back and even if you win.
Close to half of those likely voting if that is the case it's just go -- -- Feel it's not good enough what he said.
Well I think it's part of that -- to have sorts of attacks and we -- able to move on to move forward after Tuesday's election and we get back to what where we started which was.
Last January overwhelmingly bipartisan support for jobs initiatives.
It wasn't until the national forces -- -- that you start to see.
A bit of a difference of opinion here we get back to that we start helping small this -- again we think about this two years ago when I ran for governor.
Only 10% of our employers surveyed thought that was -- who was had the right direction.
That same survey a couple months ago was conducted for 2012.
94% of our employers so it was -- -- had the right direction the biggest concern though they had on their list in terms of things that would keep them from hiring people in 2012.
Was the recall.
They're concerned about the -- they believe what we've been doing positive things they believe -- moving the state forward.
But they're scared to death that if the mayor got any take things backwards and we saw that before what my -- easy to take kids backwards that -- It would -- -- but union friendly environmental -- that he would go back to collective bargaining rights that kind of set unions disparage you -- It's even bigger than I think if you go back to what the mayor wants to do didn't completely I'm -- -- reforms going back to deal click the bargain system that's when I.
A handful of big government union bosses were in charge.
But both the state in the local.
What we did was change that we put the hard working taxpayers in charge -- just in state government.
But in every one of our local governments as well that was good news for small businesses that was good for -- Did you envision that it would get as rough as -- -- I mean they -- you governor is coming in with this market -- -- on the -- he said one thing but when you -- men.
You were full barrel out to destroy unions that you are as one I think union leader said not to -- -- album putting us.
Well our -- it clear difference between I've had great partners in the private sector with private sector unions were my partner and economic development that work with us and improving your infrastructure and improving cost effective reliable sources of power they're even trying to help me -- streamline -- process for safe and environmentally sound mining.
My problem with public sector union leaders the bosses has been.
This they stood in the way of protecting the taxpayer.
I do for eight years as a county official.
I saw the biggest barrier to protecting core services for people and still protecting the property taxpayers.
Was out of control special interest -- so we really stood up to a line in the senate said I -- stay with the hardworking taxpayers.
It's proven to be effective first time in twelve years.
Property taxes went down an immediate value -- state.
Instead of having a three point six billion dollar budget deficit we have a 154 million dollar budget surplus.
And I'd like my opponent.
In Milwaukee where unemployment has gone up during his tenure 26%.
Largely because taxes and fees have gone up 43%.
That's going back with the unions you know -- -- as you know governor saying you've done it on their back.
That's not right it's not fare well I I'd say that any taxpayer out there who works outside -- government most of that would shake their head in disbelief in a statement like that because.
What we did not want my brother's a good example.
I've got a younger brother great guy who works as a banquet manager of hotel is a part time bartender his wife -- -- -- of the department store.
They get two daughters my nieces are just beautiful spirit typical middle class family not just -- -- Scott's.
But -- across America.
Last year the height of all of this scratches his head and says to me I pay more than 800 dollars a month.
For my health insurance and the little but I can set aside for my 401K I'd love to have a deal with the one -- offered for public sector employers they're matching their pension contribution.
And they're paying twelve point 6% for the health insurance most of my hard working taxpayers in the state -- anywhere from twenty to 25% of the health insurance we are still offering agree.
We -- you did mention that and you campaigned on that in this recall.
And now a lot of these union.
-- -- leaders more to the point governors saying well boy he's gonna go full board now.
Probably after -- benefits and really.
Try to kill us off if he wins.
Not a great thing we're gonna deal we've seen another -- a bit of the -- this is we're gonna reward excellence.
We're gonna -- to be a position we can hire and fire based -- we're going to be able to pay based on performance that means rear of the reward great employees particularly in our schools.
I mean in the past I've got two boys who go to public high school here in the state -- -- -- it.
At their school there was no good way to differentiate between a great teacher and the teacher that needed some assistance and now our schools all across the state.
Can really focus in on merit.
The performance -- those -- treated at school and actually surprisingly very well it's a great degrading to I think the overwhelming majority of teachers and -- state.
Southern quicktime -- -- -- family members picked -- well not at the school my kids were targeted on FaceBook by protesters -- -- all -- agree we have thousands of people -- stand.
From outside of our community for her home -- better school with their friends -- their teacher from their principal has just been exceptional.
They've been just met Alex not just the governor's what is.
You think of all this outside interest critics -- -- of yours you've got all these outside investors billionaires so the -- and and etc.
wouldn't the other side has plenty of union interest coming from.
Service sort of workers so that it in the NFL so I have -- turns on and on and on.
It that a very small fraction from in this state.
To get our -- interesting thing is more than 70% of our contributions.
Came from people here is fifty bucks or less so whether.
It it's someone here Wisconsin avoid -- so we're just across the way in south boy just over the state line in Illinois.
They're people who understand what's at stake here they understand.
Is they don't stand up and help our campaign now.
The stakes are that high because we're being attacked by the specialists.
They lose that when you say what's at stake here what what will happen what would what do you fear.
Happens that brings a Nikki Haley -- Chris Christie here or Bobby Jindal what did they say -- tell you and use that.
But that that's gonna lead to some apocalypse.
All I think it's a combination it's both the practical things that we see the mayor has no plan for economic development no flip for budget so we have to assume.
Well let's first go if he says would be to rescind your.
Right ethernet to your -- has said he said he had nothing else about how you balance the rest of budget because the reality is.
If people didn't use our -- what what happened it was stance is what we see happening in real time -- Illinois.
They raise taxes on individuals 67%.
Non business is 46%.
They've now a year later the budgets even worse off and the governor's proposed closing fourteen state facilities laying off thousands of public employees.
The cut more than a billion dollars out of Medicaid.
Those are -- horrific choices.
The places like Illinois and SEC did you what do we would have to be addressing these same look he's right for all the talk out there there that there's not -- collective bargain would only make it more difficult.
The balance the budget.
What we did was make it easier to balance the budget of both the state or local level.
Were actually getting things in a way that the the -- -- but but the larger context I think beyond Wisconsin.
-- and many of my fellow reform minded governors are here in the state -- Wisconsin Alaska what's helping us out.
Is they understand that this is really a sign about whether or not elected officials -- the courage to take on these -- issues.
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