Decision day for Wisconsin voters
Eric Yaverbaum and Guy Benson on whether Governor Walker can survive the recall vote
- Duration 13:34
- Date Jun 5, 2012
Eric Yaverbaum and Guy Benson on whether Governor Walker can survive the recall vote
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Right now the DC bureau start with healing and get your thoughts on on what we just heard from Steve brown and what do you think is gonna happen as we watch this unfold today.
Well that's 64000 dollar question.
Everyone has been.
Paying very close attention to this particular race for months I've been writing about it talking about it for her for months because.
As Steve said I think there is some.
Voting and election fatigue started to set -- -- in the state of Wisconsin for.
Very heated elections in the span of less than two years a Supreme Court justice reelected it.
Or actually nine in -- state senate reelection or and recall attempts.
-- -- August and then this is the crown jewel for the left they're trying to get Scott Walker.
And you asked her prediction I hate making them but if you look at the latest batch of polls.
Even from left leaning polls right -- calls the consistent theme is that Scott Walker is ahead now.
By how much and whether that will translate into some sort of turnout model for tonight remains to be seen but I'm feeling.
At least cautiously optimistic that Scott Walker and his policies are going to be reaffirmed.
By the voters of Wisconsin.
You know Erica is here with us on set to Steve Brown talked about -- Constant political battle -- that has been going on in the state.
And mentioning the Governor Walker had said that it was constant residents will be happy tomorrow -- not be assaulted with ads and there's been a lot of ground work I had.
I mean that I agree with you -- voting and you know election fatigue I believe everybody says that.
Wisconsin has never been in the news like this for the last two years.
All we hear about his Wisconsin and we watch Wisconsin.
So that and we say that we're gonna learn things from Wisconsin Wisconsin may be.
A barometer somehow an indicator of things to come but you know the Iowa straw poll was also supposed to be an indicator of things to come and it was and I think get.
A lot of things get very overblown politically about you know -- -- and what they indicate towards the future so you know we'll see but.
Gosh I know all I need to know about Wisconsin last two years.
-- -- you know Erica one -- one of the articles that were reading through today.
-- talking about Wisconsin's changing profile and higher profile now with all this going on even president Barack Obama's campaign now considers a state of battleground.
For the fall mr.
Obama won Wisconsin.
As note here by nearly fourteen percentage points to 2008.
But in in an update on his reelection -- sent to supporters this week.
Obama campaign manager Jim Messina characterized the state as a toss -- now what do you say about that -- But I think that the Obama campaign is right to be a little bit -- about Wisconsin has some -- -- could be trying to -- up.
Fear among supporters and they send more money right it.
If there's a state that they at first thought was a safe state like Wisconsin and and they say -- guys it's a toss up.
Please give us money that's what campaigns do all the time but in this case I don't think it's just blowing smoke think about what's happened in the state of Wisconsin as you just said very correctly.
In 2008 this is a blowout in Wisconsin Barack Obama by fourteen wasn't even close.
Then just two years later after two years of Barack Obama is.
Got control of both houses of congress and also the White House and the Democrats running everything in this town.
The people of Wisconsin and put together a huge red backlash.
Where Republicans won a US senate seat they won the governorship.
They want almost every state -- office they flipped both houses of the state legislature they picked up -- house seats for the US congress I mean it was.
In Wisconsin going the opposite direction.
And in every recall attempt or major recall battle fight in the last two years.
Republicans have prevailed so far heading into tonight so if Scott Walker wins.
By some sort of -- healthy margin in particular night.
I'm not sure how Democrats can argue that Wisconsin is not.
Perhaps a trouble spot for them in the fall.
-- Eric you know looking at the numbers and some -- recent articles coming out today either Republican governor Scott Walker can't seem to break his 50% ceiling of support.
-- voters in -- yet.
Nobody can break.
50% I mean that's the problem about the problems getting into the prediction game because.
That's what pollsters do and they don't do right I mean if pollsters always got it right we'd always know who's gonna win and we do half the time so.
You know I'd like to predict in this particular case is way too tight to call this and I hope that there the procedures that they haven't place in Wisconsin don't come into question after the fact because it's going to be a very very close race.
-- Mike Tate is the chairman of the Democratic Party Wisconsin said the party will have more than 440.
Lawyers in the field today.
A doing what they call election protection activities.
But also tasked with -- recount preparation making sure that they know where absentee ballots are at making sure that they have a strong handle.
On what's happening out there counter that to labor groups and their allies.
Who have been out there knocking on more than 300000 doors during the past two days and plays more than 400000.
Well labor groups have always done that very very -- it wasn't what they're doing is now they're mimicking each other seventh and at least they're attempting to compete on equal playing field -- always done a great.
And guy what do you think about I mean is a story going to be over today do you think the story will be over tonight arises is gonna have or -- we -- -- be talking about yesterday it's.
I -- -- we will be talking about it for days because the implications are massive.
And so I think we will be discussing.
What the fallout of tonight's results I will be for -- days to come I don't think this is going to be a razor thin race to be honest I could be I mean I have no predictive.
Powers here any more than anyone else on this show but I just think based on numerous Paula I think Scott Walker's.
Gonna win this thing by five or six points I think it'll be called tonight.
I think it might be wishful thinking for the Democrats to say that they'll need recount lawyers but.
Who knows it's it's of course more than conceivable I do get a bit of a kick out of the Democrats saying that they're engaged in election protection efforts.
This from the party that fought tooth and nail to ensure that -- identification was not required for this election when people show up to vote.
So I'm I'm curious exactly what those efforts on their behalf look like.
But that will say it's a turnout game and I think that and here's a key point in all of this.
If we want to look ahead to November.
At the very least.
Mitt Romney and his running mate are gonna walk into Wisconsin.
With -- turn key turnout operation already -- -- because the GOP and that's it has had tons.
A practice turning -- -- in the last two years which is a huge huge benefit that McCain Palin for example did not enjoy.
In the badger state back in 2008.
RA we want to bring -- like I asked our viewers to chime in for comment and I also want to read this in the have you guys China and to their comments comment from Charles -- Thank you Charles Governor Walker will when his recall I do believe that this and other states we'll show that this November election is a referendum on Obama.
Comment from Chris givens -- -- if the recall winds and the losers recall the recall winner.
This kind of -- could go on forever.
Well -- I'll tell you lot one of this.
Parts of it that will go on for a very long times we're definitely not done talking about this at eight it after the votes -- count I don't care which side comes and we're still gonna be talking -- we're going to be talking a one.
It is it.
Is this a referendum did does this matter is an indicator to put everything voted the you know correctly world are real cool about that.
You know -- you know and three voter -- because.
This is about voter turnout the more people you get the turnout the better in this.
-- and -- thanks -- -- guy can't make a point about I think it's it's kind of that last heavily Chris was his name who made that last comment which was kind of tongue in cheek and joking.
But I think it actually touches on something of a serious point here which is.
Now let's say let's say Barrett shocks everyone and winds can the Republicans in turn around and try to recall -- and I don't think they would but could day.
I think it's important to note.
That in this case -- Scott Walker's recall and the big push to thrown out of office it has nothing to do with any.
Sort of alleged that that lack of ethics any sort of political or legal malfeasance this is 100%.
A kind of vindictive sore loser down by people who don't look like his policy choices.
And I know that's allowed -- in Wisconsin state law but then I wanna take a set another look at that lobby idea that you can throw someone out.
Just because the opposition doesn't like what they're doing without any actual.
Which is typically the reason that recalls exist so I I think this is.
As some sort of retribution.
Gambit here I just don't know if if this is really.
Appropriate or or something that should be.
-- replicated -- at any point in Wisconsin or elsewhere.
I while I have both of you still here I wanted just and thank you very much for the comments from our viewers.
A wanna get your take guy on as something that we've been -- here talking about and it has been very noted.
And a lot of articles today even on the front page.
Folded up of the New York Post here's a president.
All of the picture of the president -- -- me the money.
This is president Barack Obama and President Bill Clinton.
That touring around New York a lot of talk about the celebrity.
Support of Obama -- not just -- you wanna call Bill Clinton celebrity of -- talking about some of the celebrity power on Monday the Republican National Committee released a web video called.
Meanwhile which flashes unemployment numbers for various groups.
Women's Latinos African Americans youth under clips from -- Obama campaign video from last Friday that's when.
He was hanging out of vogue editor Anna wintour talking about hanging out with sex in the city star Sarah Jessica Parker and First Lady Michelle Obama.
The bustling sounds -- New York City streets give way to crickets chirping at the end.
Of the RNC version along with the tab line Obama's focused on keeping his job.
But what about yours.
So getting -- there's there's a -- on both sides and talking about that Romney.
We heard from David Axelrod Obama's senior campaign advisors saying this week it's kind of humorous that they would take the -- Attacking the type celebrity that Obama's been hang out with George Clooney in the like.
When they say mr.
trump went off the deep end and again Romney did not rebuke him because he said he needed to get.
Fifty point 1% of the vote so a lot of talk about who's using celebrity how they're using celebrity.
And now this is playing up for the public especially during the unemployment numbers that we're taking a look at -- start with -- Both sides try to take celebrities who agree with them raise money from the Manning and use them to raise money from other people that's nothing new -- that will be.
I think a staple in American politics for a long time to come I think if we look at the scales and we try to balance out the scales in terms of which side it tends to -- more fabulous glamorous celebrities on their side it tends to be the Democrats and a Barack Obama.
But I think the RNC.
A tactic here is Smart because.
I just don't I question the timing of this Obama -- where they have this devil wears Prada woman.
Out there talking about sex in the city in common don't be late and -- and she has this preposterous accents and you know it's it's kind of like you know it's going to be this big she could she she event and we hope you can be there will be very elite and all that sort of thing.
Released on the same day.
That what within days of -- truly.
A punishing disastrous job report coming out.
Last Friday which happened -- by the way the same day that President Obama attended six fundraisers so.
All Americans are suffering Barack Obama's out there sucking up every piece of loose change he can find.
So that he can bank -- -- viciously negative campaign to demonize his opponent because he can't run his record.
Which is demonstrably -- failure.
-- Well once you can't run.
And say -- -- take it day often on the data to job numbers come out -- or any numbers for that matter it wise course it did admit that timing was not very opportunistic but that's for sure.
-- -- -- If I was able to make the decision I would say -- let's not have those two things existing side by side.
I do think at the end today all the celebrity talk it's it's actually more interesting for the celebrities themselves -- the -- support the right candidate it's better for them then.
Supporting the wrong can announcing a makes a difference whatsoever.
-- you know who's running for president even though both -- it.
And you know I think that what does matter though those job numbers do matter.
And if they keep it if they're like that for six straight months -- disappointing sixth straight month in a row.
That's gonna matter a lot.
Well you know work we're going to be talking.
-- -- doctor woody who wrote an article on Fox Business about that the job market -- on Friday the Labor Department reported the economy added 69000 jobs last month.
Short of the expected 158000.
New positions the unemployment rate ticked up to eight point 2%.
And so this is something that a lot of people are -- be definitely looking at talking about tweeting about.
And we'll continue to monitor it for you all I think we lose our satellite with you guy guy Benson I don't forget to follow him on pat dye.
On Twitter -- thank you so much for being with us here today.
My pleasure thanks for having me.