Will more states try to scale back union rights?
Herman Cain weighs in on Governor Walker winning Wisconsin’s recall election
- Duration 10:14
- Date Jun 6, 2012
Herman Cain weighs in on Governor Walker winning Wisconsin’s recall election
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-- former presidential candidate seeking the Republican nomination Herman Cain.
I wanna go right away with it to him and his thoughts on his -- pendulum swing.
-- just another Wednesday morning after the fact mr.
-- always good to have you on the program good morning.
Good morning Harris is delighted to be here -- right so the question I put to you is this say pendulum swing for the Republican Party -- The effort last night by Democrats to unseat Scott Walker not working or is this kind of well it's another Wednesday and we had an interesting thing happened on Tuesday.
Yeah but it's bigger than that Paris this is huge for the following reason.
-- -- that when the American people have the facts.
And they had given a choice in Wisconsin they will make the right decision.
Governor Walker was bold enough.
Detailed the people of Wisconsin what he was gonna do why he needed to do it and he did it.
And yet -- unions Steele didn't like it because he was multitude of people.
So we may have sent a very strong message across the country I don't know if you look -- a pendulum swing but it's a very strong message and that message is.
The voters are not stupid.
When you give them the facts and you give them a choice.
So you're talking about a swing and now I want to talk about momentum I don't know if you've read yet mr.
-- what's happening in California.
And this is an interesting development because yesterday was also very important for that state there a couple of ballot measures one of them.
Perhaps following the trend set by Wisconsin Ohio and Indiana voters in the nation's eighth.
City's largest city San Diego and then in the tenth largest city San Jose.
Voting to reform pension obligations for city workers your thoughts on what's going on in California.
What's gone on in California.
Is that the citizens and the tax fails awakened out.
And finally getting out of did not yield.
I did -- see that report that you referred to.
And when people drive Bob -- stations that are closed.
And they hear that they've got the lay off police officers because this it is simply cannot continue in those benefits at that level.
People started to realize that they needed to do something.
This also reminds me Harris California.
What was happening in Wisconsin and some other states.
It reminds me of what has happened in Greece and I continue to remind people -- United States of America.
Can't be light greens.
If people continued to insist.
That we put more and more money into programs.
That we cannot afford so finally some of the -- is in California -- starting to see the light.
Think -- to me about the general election and what this could mean because I started a program by telling viewers and they may already know but.
It's a good point to start with 900000.
For this recall bit.
Where were asked people yesterday.
I think those people showed up at the polls but here's what happened moral conservatives.
Then those people showed up.
Did that turn out I believe was -- critical factor in what happened in Wisconsin.
The union's labor to get gold -- shoes because as you know sometimes they use intimidation tactics.
In order to get people to sand and I happen to believe that that exit polls but -- reflective -- calls of people being afraid to be intimidated.
So yes they -- to get the signature used.
But when people get in it's it's that bad move and -- that secret ballot which is why it should remain a secret ballot.
Then little vote -- heart that mine and that conscience rather than.
What necessary -- they may have done in order to get that recalling next.
All right I know you have a very busy day and again I appreciate the tweet.
It's very fine -- you I wanna -- you know that.
I want to listen now to Milwaukee mayor Tom Barrett from last night he lost Bob by double digits percentage.
With the vote count.
Now we must look to the future.
And our challenges are real.
We are -- state that has been deeply divided.
And it is up to all of us our side in their side.
To listen to each other.
And to try to do what's right for everyone in this state.
What is the message that people should be listening to.
-- -- Well from most of merits perspective.
I believe he is doing the right thing by trying to say we now have to come together and listen to each other.
He the Democrats and -- union leaders they didn't listen to the people.
The people who say it we must have change they did not want to send Wisconsin down the road to somebody's all the states.
Who believe that they can go on and on and on without restructuring.
-- -- fact that he stated we must listen.
That is a good thing.
But I hope that he did not mean.
We want Governor Walker in his administration.
To listen to us and go back to the whole way of doing things I -- demonstrated.
They simply demonstrated that they they move meant body unions in this particular case was so critical.
Because -- -- demonstrated.
The old Einstein principle if you keep doing the same thing the same way.
You gonna get that same result and that people saying we don't want the result of the past.
You know I try to step in for just -- second their forgive me but something was going through my mind as you were speaking.
This something that I think you forecast I mean you talked it about this in your 999 plan how.
Collective bargaining and pensions and those things we're gonna come up I remember talking with you about this on your tour bus last fall.
What are your first impressions if you will.
About this particular message it's our question of the day do you think it's necessary to end collective bargaining rights for most state workers nationwide in order to ease budget problems.
How would you answer that.
It's not necessary to the end collective bargaining.
To give workers a choice.
That was the big but she -- that -- -- walker achieved in other words.
Once they say it it's no longer that unions can no longer require you to join.
And they can no longer take the -- out of -- paycheck.
Nearly 40% of the workers parents say it I don't wanna be a member of the union and I don't want to do is taken out of my paycheck.
Give the people -- choice so they didn't -- collective bargaining rights they simply gave.
The choice back to the workers and did -- leave -- enhanced of the union bosses.
That's what -- -- happen all over this country.
-- where are we with unions today because I think arguably people would say -- know that's a natural Democrat voting block Democrats can count on them.
Is there a voice quieter now because of what's happened in Wisconsin.
And -- mr.
Obama count on them in the fall.
I believe that that voice is still significant.
And I do believe that President Obama -- be -- -- -- unions in the fall.
But here's the flips that.
People who thought wake it up and understanding the truth about what's happening they have -- -- vote differently.
So in the past unions thought that they -- demand more and more and more and more up and get -- way.
And in states like Wisconsin and others they've been electing.
Democrats who would be in return the favor and view these exorbitant pension demand.
And all the other benefits.
I think what the American people are saying and a lot of them independence -- -- conservatives but even some Democrats who say.
We cannot continue down this path so I think that's that that's what it means.
It's you know in recent Asia saw a lot of big names speaking about this race may be the most he has a renowned of them would be the president of the United States Barack Obama.
How much does this damage his effort or or maybe take that -- blew him off his rose if you will he's put his weight behind Tom Barrett.
And it didn't seem to count or matter.
It did you -- and I think monitor reasons that he stayed out is because they were looking very closely at the polls.
And the president didn't want to be associated with going in there and being blamed for the loss that may have Barrett got last night.
I think that President Obama still has a significant advantage in Wisconsin.
But what the result of yesterday tells us entails the nation is that Wisconsin is now a battleground states.
I don't believe that President Obama has the decided advantage that he hit prior to yesterday to Wisconsin in my opinion politically.
Is now in play as -- major battleground state.
All right with the last few seconds I have to know who are the -- 999.
An army of Davids -- new book -- -- K it just came out.
Why -- like -- just a few weeks ago who.
-- -- Dave it's Bob Dole's people that went to the polls in Wisconsin yesterday a high and voted.
Based upon the facts and not based upon the emotions that big unions one of them the -- on the -- -- -- people in this country Harris that are going to change Washington DC.
From the bottom up with bad -- that's an old saying that most -- -- -- former senator Everett Dirksen.
When they feel the heat.
They will see the light and not goals and of people that are -- -- -- the heat.
Who gonna be to -- it's it's been an audit it watch it in the C delight and to get state houses and governors all over this country.
To see the light -- of the -- it's it's called we the people.
All right well like this morning as the -- sunshine.
From -- -- got it hasn't gone as he stops by to give us his thoughts on last night.
The victory for Scott Walker the defeat for Tom Barrett and the future as we head into November thank you for all thoughts there and -- bought a 999 an army of Davids.
I'm good to see mr.
-- take care about -- Thank you very much.