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And that's -- our top story governor Scott Walker racking up a big win last night against recall efforts in Wisconsin.

He won by an even larger margin than he did when he was elected the first time back in 2010.

Milwaukee mayor Tom Barrett Democrat says the -- showed the strength of the opposition to Walker's policies.

But the Wisconsin governor has a slightly different take care of both men from last night.

What has made America amazing it's been the fact that throughout our history.

Throughout the more than 200 years -- our history there have been men and women of courage and who stood job.

And decided it was more important to look out for the future of their children and their grandchildren and then their own.

You.

Know we have seen.

Over the last sixteen months.

Is we have seen this democracy can come alive.

And those of you.

To those who view him move far.

Who obtain signatures and who stood out in the cold.

Who did what you thought was right.

Never.

Ever stop doing what you think is right that's what makes this such a great.

Our focus group is back they have helped us follow this election up to this point group of Democrats and Republicans all here to weigh in on what last night -- what it doesn't mean.

When is that with you Kevin McCullough in the back do you think -- you tell me what you think the significance was and and whether you think it has national implication.

Common sense won last night and the way that it one is that the average person said.

If I can still get a health plan at 88%.

Covered in a retirement -- 95% instead of having them both covered a 100%.

And that's the sacrifice -- -- to make to make our state fiscally responsible I'm willing to do it.

That the result of last night was the absurdity of the unions who got pat.

That pounded in this against the common sense of everyday American.

How big a loss -- juggling -- Democrat was it for the union.

You know it was a lost let's face it -- kind -- something historic here this sort of in the third recall I believe in American history so you it was a big big.

Effort and -- to get the gold medal but they got the bronze medal they won that the state senate and that's a big deal but I think who won last night it was money.

Mean walker -- spent a multiple times.

We should just cut out the middleman and auction off his offices on the day it would be much much easier -- a lot of discussion about whether the ground game however the Republicans establish in Wisconsin an effort to preserve Scott Walker's job.

Will come back to help them.

In November even though President Obama won Wisconsin by fourteen -- point F fourteen points back and in no way the question is whether the Republicans are now well boy used.

Two.

Do better in in November Tracy Davis for -- Let me ask you well I think it's a huge game changer both in Wisconsin and nationally and I think that.

It not only knocked the wind out of Obama's sails but capsized and because.

It shows -- he did that the people -- and in this country are willing to.

Make certain sacrifices and -- take tough roads.

-- this debt that he has.

And spent the news that crude as -- George Bush did in eight years.

He's doing nothing about the -- the Buffett rule after one year would cover three -- interest on the debt.

He wants to raise the debt ceiling again in America.

Yeah.

The Wisconsin voters didn't seem to have a problem with the with President Obama last night there isn't actually -- upon your attitude change and have -- -- -- Everybody wants to say that this has huge ramifications.

That -- did it it it's gonna be very influential in the presidential election.

What I think it will be very influential and is the attitude that people go into running.

Some people that -- a little bit nervous before gonna feel emboldened that they can say things that they didn't think they could say before.

And I think for Democrats is gonna be a little bit about but you know when how.

Have a little bit of a posse celebrated here -- -- Republicans that battle the had to be fought potentially.

Every governor and United States whether Republican or Democrats face is exactly the same problem.

Scott Walker had the courage to stand up there.

And get these position validated by the public it's going to send tremendous.

Waves across the country to embolden governors now to do the same thing that he's done for the Governor Cuomo New York.

Governor Christie New Jersey Democrat Republican they're doing exactly the same thing and exactly the same issue with regard to health and pension benefits Republican police union -- Get I want to Cuba unions because they rallied for this they really -- -- recall Governor Walker they it was an uphill battle however.

But did the discussions today are talking about how they lost.

On policy.

Unions have and they have really been crippled in in Wisconsin as a result of these new policies.

And it's cut them out politically as well as in terms of their collective bargaining rights and so on to the point where now they're they're weaker -- -- have the -- membership they don't have the same money.

Is that a trend we're likely to see in other states now that walker has kept his job.

Right the declining influence of unions has been happening over the course of decades right now.

So it's not specific to this particular -- situation but I do think Governor Walker really you know the we look at this is a victory for Henman and that it was a fair one victory last night.

But when you think about it it doesn't happen very often that a governor -- -- -- -- the million people signed a petition in the state and not a great populous state.

Saying they can't wait for the next election to get him out of there so and then you have nearly half of the population that -- Anyone -- just winning by a bigger -- anyway.

-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- I don't think you should go on notice that Scott Walker receive more.

Votes in the primary to this recall than -- two top democratic opponents need.

Combined the motivation was really on the side of the taxpayers and for the first time in a long time and many people worked in politics understand this dynamic the unions -- world.

By the taxpayer we've never seen this happen there really -- the that was underlined how.

-- -- yeah Ottawa hasn't been done but I did -- -- question about whether you can extrapolate that -- President Obama.

9%.

And as an in terms of the exit polling President Obama did much better than an -- -- -- by about 6%.

This is a huge win for the Republicans and ranks -- -- the unsung hero here because he can remember was chairman of Wisconsin and -- -- RNC chairman.

Put 400 million calls.

Have a huge ground game and you know what this is death to the union stepped to the collective moved up to the Obama yeah.

I've heard controversy.

Hey.

Well there's -- have today by -- around looking at these exit polls that were flawed as they mostly are they didn't think they I don't -- -- -- -- -- And over performance by Democrats in the exit poll so if you took that 4%.

And applied it to Barack Obama seven point advantage -- -- 300.

But -- -- this how -- you cannot look at the early waves of exit polling and save that and exit polls were inaccurate you look at the final -- to see whether they -- out here.

Droves and droves of polls.

Happening in Wisconsin and not a single one not a single one has Mitt Romney coming out ahead of Barack Obama so when you can -- people of.

Yeah.

Focus there's not on the taxpayer gonna focus here is on the outside my the -- Brothers.

On the billionaires that are -- donated thirty million dollars just got a lot of it.

I'll tell you that because you know the unions in and it and -- there are gonna do yeah -- An alleged yelling I think that leaning back and can't think -- yeah -- don't -- -- minutes -- has nearly ten of the ten biggest groups that donate to political campaigns.

Six of them donates to Republicans corporate corporate donors four of them are unions this was a blow to the union of public ownership -- completely.

You know his public and Natalie you SE I talked about at public employee that's what terminology.

And all of a movie -- decisions that -- Is is that is policies were working that he had the courage to go through it anyway and that the people were happy with it and that is the blue eyes yeah.

Yeah.

As many of -- got to get.

-- that got Governor Walker and reduce that State's deficit considerably.

I mean you -- looking elegant 3.3 and a half billion dollar deficit.

From a 2011 a 2013 and now it's down to the millions -- 143 million.

And -- state voters in Wisconsin seem to like.

The results even if they didn't necessarily love I've had to try and I didn't like what -- You know I mean they they opposed and they did there's certainly with the percentage of them that oppose the idea of -- recall in general which arguably did you know coffee.

-- -- -- It is two point isn't so looters even -- you -- like locker don't like recall anything about until now the government to issue an Obama's doing nothing about the -- well number yeah.

So I -- not that -- is Obama at all it's.

All about the role public employee unions and state governments and how we fund them and how the state budgets are crafted right now it's happening and yeah.

-- hotline.

It's about it's not it's about they're not really alignment between.

These public employee unions and what their percentage of the budget's going to be as it relates to paint him.

I got -- -- but how is it because the -- Brothers have been attacked by the president's reelection campaign in their private citizens who have made donations is like the privacy.

-- -- -- I didn't exist yeah thank you I -- -- how about.

All the outside union money that had went into Wisconsin and the union employees from Michigan and Ohio and others that need to show quote -- solidarity with their union brotherhood.

Then it's okay to have some outside people participating because this was a national referendum but the big loss for the president.

Was tactically his ground team organized for America the union rally team that was so the story and -- well they aren't ahead.

-- -- -- -- Yeah instead and -- yeah.

Those are always fun and --