Love letters to victims and a cannibalistic delivery
Bill Daly and Tom Ruskin on bizarre recent criminal acts
- Duration 11:28
- Date Jun 6, 2012
Bill Daly and Tom Ruskin on bizarre recent criminal acts
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Welcome back everybody well it's time for our hit list we've got good friend Bill Daly and Tom -- in the house.
Tom Ruskin former NYPD detective and president DMP group.
And bill -- most of you know hitting the former FBI officer and senior VP for control -- great to have both today -- -- been seen in awhile but it we'll always fun having guys on board.
So let's talk -- mother somebody's crazy stories that are making -- -- I mean obviously did that jurors in the sandusky trial or.
-- almost I guess pretty much got back together and they're gonna help us and make opening arguments in this trial but what these letters that he.
Allegedly sent to the victim when these things.
I think this guy's gonna -- down just a minute how hard he's been good there and I think that the evidence is there.
I think -- you know it's funny that allowed the jurors seemed to be related.
To people from Penn State people cool and it's a very small community why -- I -- to -- playing.
You on fast ascent might as well you'd think that recently people have these moves these connections kind of motionless on you ride to the university into the football team.
As much as he's gonna is that he's not guilty and certainly will be.
Important if -- -- there isn't enough but.
Let's movies coming -- -- into the trial some leaks and it was actually interesting that he -- because they really can't -- things but apparently some -- digitally.
Brilliantly but let's let us -- -- to win the victims as well as gifts given to.
When these -- the victims and Isa Isa wasn't being charged with multiple counts of -- -- years.
So I think the when we started here and if there is.
And documentation -- there -- things in his own words and -- things that talk about a relationship with.
With someone -- we lose that you victims to be very difficult to return from that do you think that.
What we're seeing right now is just.
But -- -- a brief sampling of what we can expect coming into that a lot of stuff gonna come out mistrial.
I think it is going to be a lot of forensic evidence I think that there's going to be a lot of these type of things the letters.
Telephone calls text messages emails that are all over the continent and I think that that's gonna be his downfall.
If he is going to be convicted of the evidence is there and convince the jury it's going to be based on his own.
Ratings emails love letters that they exist and it alluded to and that -- And that the and one of the things that may also come and certainly hope not if there are people who are in -- out there who gets kind of he did with this brush but many I think people may -- -- -- -- testimony who either.
Could cooperate his whereabouts or -- suggested he do or you as we know some some of that suggesting kind of internal cover up.
We'll also be put out trial because that is certainly key to making.
The case whether or not the victims were were.
Could've been it could have been prevented the victims and notifying people setter so fortunately wound.
Goes forward with regard to sandusky with regard to.
The if -- college town near the university football teams will go on through the trial.
Absolutely I mean I don't know exactly how long it took him to find the jurors but did it surprise you that it to -- it seemed like the jurors.
We'll pick rather quickly -- they started Monday and they've almost.
Or they haven't penalized terabyte of Mason losing earlier be genetically close knit -- in that community.
And the fact that you know.
How most people will have had time and you know influence about our influence perhaps by the headlines and they know what's going on they can't quite aware of story.
I'm somewhat surprised that they haven't AS that if the defense hasn't is for change of venue now I -- based on the presidential the fact -- paternalism around because he died.
And in the fact that the jury it is as you balloon to is a very small community and I think the jury could be -- Yeah and what we the other when you think -- -- -- be -- -- just be so outraged that I had you know -- -- and how big -- -- a great reputation of the university of football team.
And others have some kind of a compassionate -- -- -- to your point I am surprised that they were able to kind of pick a jury that quickly without having people dismissed without.
You know I don't -- people here again you know not attorney -- -- try to speak like one on TV I thought I.
He let me ask you how how significant factor is it now that.
Does Joseph Paterno has passed away does that help or hurt.
The secure well let's send -- -- face it relieves Paterno but -- or is this trial or potentially being cooled of course.
Heidi I don't think it really place at -- it's I don't know other then.
The compassion -- the feeling that he was return those assistant coach.
I don't really think it's gonna play into a case like this I think the jurors are really gonna command I think -- -- -- look at the evidence and they're either -- -- him be home port convict them.
And I think I think also affected Paterno you know had already revealed that he had made notification.
That internal investigation appears to -- completed so we will use the proceeds from the investigation identifying who would've known and -- if -- and -- need to bring that into.
It is cooperating the victim's testimony that you -- -- going a long time -- abide by the defense official host.
Our rights moving on to other stories making news right now what do you make it has at least.
But human remains went to Canadian schools for fat about -- -- -- -- this is one that.
If you talk about evil incarnate -- this sounds like from.
Apparently allegedly tipping the -- this this individuals -- been arrested in Germany after fleeing from candidate.
And was -- by the German police by actually a very attentive.
German citizen who storm in the Internet cafe reading about this story.
We apparently had allegedly stabbed his his -- and apparently in the photography industry.
And and then dismembered.
And and it allegedly.
You know indicating a ballistic fashion.
You know it felt you know how many -- registered just really revolting and now Australia originally -- -- that well I'd answer that moment.
Let it go back we we had a couple these stories in the past who has had destroyed in Florida yet we're.
When the intent of ballistic and put it this.
Rule and the best way camp through very horrible thing and think about it but now the the apparently remains were sent both to the partial remains -- Hand and foot.
Where we send to both members of of leadership in in Ottawa.
And then also to two schools out in Vancouver which seemed to be a bit strange -- us.
The -- the alleged.
From there chemical -- -- for the panel is set.
Was in Montreal so what the connection is -- -- two schools apparently no children you know we're involved and receiving their means but certainly ministries were very very troubling on my very disheartening -- Very sick dude I know as a guy who you know thank god they got them -- and thank god they got -- in Germany it shows how well law enforcement.
All over this world wrestling together.
On a case like this but this guy is guilty he deserved.
To go away.
I have always I have to ask you one question of business it has the story has been making a lot of -- obviously both are.
Heavily into the security issues and you know a lot of -- the care of our fight against terrorism.
What do you make about the fact that the drone got qaeda's number two guy now and how that impacts.
You know our fight against.
Those folks and it's a good feeling to -- to victory.
And lots -- -- obviously.
Yeah I mean come hood you know kind of a war on terrorism I think you know the drones certainly as we've talked about previously and things and stories.
You know is the wave of the future the big thing that I have an issue with -- coming out of counterintelligence.
And the FBI.
Is that you're not able now to interrogate individuals just is that.
You know the edge here and in us energy we get into this discussion because some -- -- politicized.
Over capturing people than where they held.
You know who -- -- them all they.
You know it's treated as war criminals they treated as you know as citizens of of that country gets very very murky as a result.
Of course we've chosen I think the path.
-- killing them.
Which in one hand remove some of the top level Echelon -- continues.
To keep the and the ability for the groups to be able to gonna surface and attack us -- -- -- -- large scale manner.
However we are repeated by gathering more intelligence right -- little.
Very glad that they got him I'm glad that they got a with the drone.
The the fact of the matter is when you use it drove -- immediate.
And he really is second from Tony Awards the missile off the drones to the target.
-- -- years ago you have the tomahawk missiles -- -- subs or -- wolf of cruisers.
In a -- nearby and it could be an hour.
To -- his target.
And with a laser pointing and the people who were on the ground fifty fact of the matter is.
The fact that he was founded Pakistan there and the fact that we went into Pakistan to -- one more to me.
Sort of flies in the face of -- -- not cooperating with us taking billions of dollars from the United States every year.
For what they're not assisting us maybe we have to start looking at the funding they jailed as Doctor Who assisted in -- -- -- right capture and killing.
I mean there either our friends are there enemies there is no in between.
He's -- -- -- in their faces you lose your little Honda helpful and that led to his flat really quickly about the fact that we don't have nothing interrogate him and the fact that he is you know he's gone and it definitely chosen a strategy to go after.
Players Italians I like I think we're we can that we put people on the -- we've -- -- on the grid and -- captured these people.
In other cases it is better not to risk -- men right on the ground or men and women of the armed services on the ground to go win.
To get these people and potentially miss them in the time it takes to get them there and just take them -- I was always yeah I am missing you know what to.
That however interest in this is that it does require a full -- on the ground but when you study identifying individuals and then.
You know people lighting up the targeting -- the exact coordinates -- have -- that -- really didn't treat riskier but.
It does require people to be on the -- access to know that somebody's either leaving a building Ryan Carr a certain time.
What's in real hard intelligence in real time intelligence is real true state of the art.
I think the future of warfare I think future and good for -- -- with the leader in the and be able to now keep down these these people initially attacked us and -- my view has always been.
You know what's there that popular above the head drove you need to -- take care physicians who wanted to be coalesce and of course another great attack against the west.
Remember relentlessly very quickly -- -- we do destroyed the target.
That doesn't stop us from sending troops in -- other works to see what intelligence may be left behind her probably not much yet but we did it doesn't stop us from that.
It -- very welcoming these attacks we talk about collateral damage is really limited studies that it is it is a way forward and I'm happy to do that as opposed to missing the opportunity at -- absolutely ready to remove them.
The decision to broadcast an -- and it was painful things I had to ask a question that I just now you guys are so good at these insights you have terms of that perspective -- really.
Do appreciate and all our audience appreciates as well thanks and -- and -- thank you good to see you generally don't appreciate it.