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Are union voters in Wisconsin divided?

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    Panelists Mark Hannah and Dee Dee Benkie talk about recall results in the blue collar state

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Start talking about -- a lot to talk about here.

Interesting even though the governor survived in a situation.

Being the exit polling that came out people who are against the recall still said -- -- the majority.

Still blasting they would vote for the president he was leading at in terms of the polling -- This moment -- abide by about 10% which is equate.

It's it shouldn't surprise anybody President Obama Obama had a double digit.

Oh lead in 2008 and I think he's got a lot of momentum going back into 2000.

And twelve as well but did.

It was kind of interesting element of -- that they were voting against the recall but at the same time they were voting thing that they would still at this moment absolutely -- vote Democrat.

This wasn't a vindication for Republican economic policies this was.

To be fair and and to governor Walker's credit this was a vindication of Governor Walker -- in particular.

But let's step back and and look at the fact that.

Thereof only been about 33 recalls of governors in the course of American history and it's not a huge victory bit about a year and a half two years into this -- governorship.

A million Wisconsin -- sign -- come -- and sign a petition saying they can't wait.

And two years can wait till the next election -- and get him out and and nearly half of those the Wisconsin.

Voters vote to oust him so I I think that.

It's a very divided state right now the one thing that Wisconsin has in common whether -- conservative or if they're liberal.

Is you know it's a very blue collar very working class state.

But that the policies enacted by Governor Walker have been extremely divisive.

Have put.

Union and big labor on their heels on the defensive and they've come back you know and and maybe you know maybe they have punched above their weight we've seen that -- -- the power of big you know big labor.

Isn't.

You know is an absolute.

Yesterday that's that if there's any evidence I think it.

I.

Thank you might just die out as many union members themselves voted against.

That the -- and then basically -- -- -- walk a third the third isn't NN Miami a lot of we think about this being a blue state for the most part in the fact that he had very strong.

It to me.

Hey it's strong -- a Democrat I was in the democratic column.

I just think it's very if -- that they broke ranks.

Right I mean the union.

People who are -- teachers and firefighters and cops who are union member's -- members of the public employees' unions.

Our -- at that you know can make their minds up independently and they have their own opinion -- And it at this time and they did and they did and the majority about 63% voted for I think.

Isn't it suggests -- -- at the end of the you know the folks in the unions are also questioning the leadership now and concerns about their own futures and job stability I think so.

-- that this isn't really sad black day for unions.

This isn't it -- for them fortunately there Clinton brought on themselves that.

-- -- -- So this may be for the Republican Party and remember that -- treatments that aren't C chairman -- is the former chairman.

Wisconsin.

I knew that well this is the Republican Party an opportunity.

To -- -- together and that there are 400 million call today.

That's huge.

Organize -- -- -- and Democrats say ground -- talk about money.

Well to grant his money.

You're not gonna win and recall and -- -- stay at a ground game it was a thinks that's the Republican Party can't.

Agree with Debbie wasserman -- the NC chairman that this was a good drive right.

Agree but Democrats came out.

-- -- Yet know for sure we didn't we didn't we didn't ousted Governor Walker as you know Democrats had hoped but let's take a look at a number of factors here first of all.

You you know it's easy to generalize and say oh this is a big referendum on incumbency or this is a referendum on you know economic policies -- democratic -- Republican economic policies -- Really happening here is first of all.

There's a level of us tendency toward the status quo you know this is -- a governor who isn't completely unlikable he's not -- -- -- He has made some major reforms that.

Working class B but I also think that have worked to help build a state coffers up again for the rest and people that's one reason they think they have.

But he'll quit if they hadn't work I think tour event tougher position due to -- survivor Rico.

-- -- of the -- of the governors to work with all interest and whether that's you know labor or corporate interest or do whatever the case may be.

I think that.

And vast majority of people who are the people who.

Initiated this recall were upset about wasn't so much that there were gonna -- -- the one.

-- -- we're gonna be made to the benefits of public employees it was the sort of ideological.

And invasive posturing toward.

Public employees whether -- firefighters teachers cops to say that you know we have this budget deficit in the way we're gonna solve it is by.

Changing pretty you know substantially -- the benefit structure that these public employees are gonna get.

But meanwhile the super wealthy Wisconsin knights who we're paying lower taxes that they than they've ever paid in recent history aren't going to.

You know chip in their fair share if there had been a more balanced approach that Governor Walker had taken.

I think you would have had a lot more by and he would have been a lot more politically popular and it would have been insulated from these attacks these -- -- Hat that he can learn that it has survived every car and believe how many governors get them recall -- would be in a lot well that's because he's he's why did he.

And that'll automatically today to talk about money for a second to the candidate that commitment not a doctor appointment and had been.

And -- -- States.

Bar and it was a kid he had -- and finally this.

Houston he has worked at the very scary very scary -- the Republican Party because they're so organized and got a great ground game.

I think they get -- -- can confidently state.

An investigation organizations Republican Party -- that it is a very good sign.

For Romney if -- isn't really the party or just a grassroots.

-- coalition that's out there because people hours of frustration either tonight.

Either I think that little leeway had -- any grassroots it's people like you know it's the American rugged individualists that we don't want collective we don't want -- -- bargaining and we don't want the government telling us what to do was on some nights like what.

Governor Locke says it we don't recall we want our own opinion we don't want to be you know bowled over by the unions and that he stood up in the blitz today.

There is a good job policy it costs it.

Grass -- as well as a party in the heart of this particular instance because of rights preakness -- -- are actually being on the Republican National Committee that this was a big network it's really.

Lot -- is a big fan and I my weekend to.

Attention and a lot of -- and it was important as it shows the rest of the country that you know it's TV and Romney has a chance now Wisconsin just a -- But I influence here is that this is a good hitting.

I -- -- -- big unions and big money is the winner here not Wisconsin good Pratt had a --

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