Report: States looking to hit drivers with mileage tax
Would that slam the brakes on an economic recovery?
- Duration 7:33
- Date Jun 9, 2012
Would that slam the brakes on an economic recovery?
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-- is gas prices are heading lower some states -- look at the -- drivers with a mileage tax will just slammed the brakes on any chance for recovery.
Why everyone and Shaka sign welcome to cash NN.
I kept it secret this week we have wait Rogers Jonathan Hoenig Tracy Byrnes and John late Ellis also joining us this week democratic consultant -- penis up.
All of the Intel late build I might -- energy manic paglia is this any time do you think for a mileage tax to be -- -- and states across the country.
Absolutely not this has nothing new the economic recovery it's not gonna hurt is just plain stupid.
Look you have the lottery being sold so many different states inability to give us a lottery this money's gonna go to schools it never went to schools and went to the general fund.
That's exactly what's gonna happen here you're gonna have all these tax mileage tax debt how are you gonna enforce this what what did -- have a person that's going to work every day.
You're -- you have some politician give them exemption what we have some other crews say the post -- give them exemption.
There's going to be so many different -- what are your -- a tractor what if you're a school -- of buts there's only so many different layer yeah exemptions just having a flat gas tax if it would actually go to roads which it does but.
By the way and -- -- -- way to do it.
Tracy -- what if you haven't electric car you mean you -- -- -- -- and you're you're exempt as well -- that's why you know what to John's point if they just did things.
So actually could make sense you know not get rid of all the other taxes two point -- the hybrids to get rid of the gas tax couldn't mileage tax on the roads.
-- museum bridges that using tunnels let's be paying for the stuff amusing but money is gonna end up in somebody's pocket in some hot tub on some of the -- -- I.
I don't make enough.
-- in Las Vegas just admit -- I just go and are so -- that.
-- -- -- -- But that's nothing is like here's -- think this.
Sounds like Big Brother a little bit to me I mean that they've been testing this out -- -- -- again and in Wisconsin and and what they're Minnesota excuse me and what they're saying here is that they got attach something to the vehicles I'm gonna get followed by this technology and you are -- drive and not so sure that's.
Sounds appealing to me.
This is one of those ideas -- consoles like -- would say do you really want to be in politics.
-- this is political suicide and made much taxes aren't gonna work.
Mean -- listen to 203040 years down the road if we have -- -- -- gridlock that's one thing but that's not where we are right now that I think the flip side of this.
I would say from a Democrat perspective in particular this is really -- you're working pour.
You to drive to work or commute to work this gonna be a major hit it doesn't make a lot of sense to be recommending this right now there have to be better ways I imagine.
-- mileage tax and wait here's the thing oil prices have been going down every day gas prices are finally gone down so that's actually supposed to help the economy right.
Well if you are surely -- -- -- melts -- an invasion of privacy I mean we have this threat that for example they gonna use domestic drones do.
To track us you know -- you're gonna have some device in your car that tells you where you go every in every mile.
It's a nutty idea it doesn't work the fact of the matter is that politicians originally when they put on -- on -- tax on gasoline.
They should've said okay we have a depreciation -- it takes so much to maintain these roads open so many present time we have to match that with the fact.
They don't do that well and I can't take the money they spend it and this was I mean the idea not a thing that could be doesn't let me finish -- yeah I think I done.
That is the fact that you could you could privatize roads that Kabila as they just pay a total tax I -- Palin -- -- the road.
And you use the road in that broad as the road that gets in the gets that money goes direct and to maintain that wrote that does that all the time so -- -- do that and got caught I don't want and I.
-- no one in Iraq -- now because for the first nine -- -- -- actually talking sense about trying to.
-- anyways yeah.
My belt loop it.
Yeah -- -- from 1850.
-- the early nineteen hundreds there were hundreds of private roadway toll in this country and it should be user pays.
This was just this is just more about more control from Big Brother putting an attachment and -- -- Every and I -- -- I don't like.
-- -- a good idea it's a good idea adopted.
This is about control from Big Brother -- and honestly -- -- -- -- gonna tax you for looking at the sunrise for breathing this is about bigger government and less freedom and individuals' lives back.
Got that misuse of funds you know what -- is actually could serve a purpose if there and money is used -- we're supposed to be just right.
A lot I was supposed to go to education.
I ever happen we're not seeing money appropriated the way it's about.
-- 125% of attacked a gas tax actually now goes to T services other than it.
Protecting the roads fixing the roads cut straight to your point even the money that was supposed to -- -- -- think the roads is diverted from it.
It coming until let me you know the -- the miss spending by states decided what they would do with the money really why this has not gone national and got more traction is because of the privacy concerns.
That's what our privacy concerns and look at -- implementation concerned what Chris -- talking about is correct.
If you wanna deal of congestion put -- congestion tax that if you wanna deal that like -- -- -- Mayor Bloomberg dot tried to do in New York City.
That's if you wanna deal -- -- the problem with my college though is how do you implement this -- And well how do you deal that F 150 truck -- compared to a Toyota Prius.
Our our regular Honda gas car how do you deal -- that eighteen Wheeler you've got to have people that are using this service is just -- consumption consumption tax.
Pay for the services they use I don't think other people should -- -- airport security if I'm the one using it I think I should paper that if -- -- -- wrote I should pay for the roads and but the problem is this money goes into the general fund -- says there was Social Security the Lotto and everything else and that's where it's get.
best I mean I -- -- -- say it isn't coming and saying Chris that was that it you know.
I -- -- service I'm using I should pay for.
Well if you buy an airline ticket you are paying in part for airline security -- and navy that's that goes the fact that we should have some kind of mileage tax.
Or even a consumption tax to help states out they are -- the money they got to get -- from some.
-- -- here but here's the problem this is not Europe -- in the United States is a very unique culture I think as we all know.
And the notion that somehow you're gonna have -- -- just that monitoring part which I think kind of freaks people lot of -- the political spectrum but they even have a modest tax.
I mean I just think it's so regressive -- heard the people you do not want her to can't afford it.
And I don't think that makes any sense in and then beyond that let's be honest who do you think he's gonna be the politician at the national level was gonna recommend this right.
While nobody may that would be political suicide -- it would be crazy.
And it mean to Wayne's point Chris we would all be helped by a privatization even a limited privatization has been done and and news Chicago with the skyway for the roads because of the money -- to your point coming into.
In the the government a benefit to government as opposed to an angle and expands well with a lot of respect now I'm not sure that's the best idea either -- -- had the idea from going from.
To privatizing highways and actually solution you know you're gonna you're gonna politicians -- too much credit remember that we're investigating steroids in baseball when the housing crisis was blowing up people -- can't walk.
Don't let anybody right by these guys thought that it.
My gosh knows what about the fact that Wayne and Jonathan agree and then Friday tens for one -- -- yeah.
I hate to -- you -- next Christmas.
But just I think it -- that much.