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I disagree completely that is particularly those who have been rated as the best performers -- at the highest.
Raises by far in recent state history in fact ever in state.
History I think we have a fairer system now state workers.
-- praise them all the time and I think the ones I.
-- -- are rightly proud of the job they are doing and as I just mentioned their fellow citizens appreciate them here in a way that.
Maybe is not the case elsewhere.
But how -- what about this figure that I just gave you Indiana ranking 46 of the fifty states in state worker gross salary.
I don't know where they come from and I've never seen them before so I can't comment on it did I mean -- -- fact.
You know I -- we have a lot of information that in terms of gross salary and terms of the cost to the state worker.
Of health care benefits that those have gone up a lot.
Well Chris all I can tell you is that.
We have we believe and others -- to the the most effective state -- America we're very will turn over lower than before among our state employees may be that says something.
We think we have the best health care plan.
Anywhere and it is one which.
Is leading to a much lower increases in costs a by the way 93%.
Of Indiana State workers at a health savings account.
They are accumulating tens of millions of dollars that they control.
In those accounts and they are renewing at a very high rate.
Satisfaction rate every year so.
You know way.
We're not really.
We've done anything but improve a lot of Indiana's public employees.
Let's take a look governor at the big picture and a sense it's almost a philosophical question don't unions.
Have a place in this country and even in the case of of state workers public workers and got -- government.
To make sure that that management in this -- government doesn't run roughshod over them.
I think once again would differentiate between the two sectors absolutely there's a place in the private sector I think there are some issues here that -- -- their problems didn't start with Scott Walker there's enough.
Forty or fifty year decline in union membership the world of work has changed workers have changed.
And unions I don't think have changed sufficiently to go with them so.
As you know private sector meant membership is down under 7% now on and that -- can't be blamed on Scott Walker frankly anyone else and public life again on the government side honest people can differ but.
There's -- I think the fundamental problem.
With government becoming its own special interest groups forced dues.
Recycled into politics to elect them compliance and friendly politicians in an unending circle and ultimately.
There is not really -- bargaining in those situations because government sits on on both sides of the table.
Looking ahead to November is there a danger here for Republicans the Obama campaign is just out with a a new -- that we're gonna put up on -- second.
That in effect says that Mitt Romney is has become the enemy of working men and women let's take a look at the -- -- Governor is there the danger of a backlash.
You know that -- -- could be read cynically as simply playing -- the core constituency of the president which is government itself from the people who.
Who profit from it.
But honestly IE I've concluded over the years it's not that that it's just sadly symptomatic of incredible -- -- has he does not understand where wealth and jobs come from.
They come from it.
Successful private sector or not at all.
You know we've got the biggest government we've ever had in the weakest recovery ever -- on record and I think honestly the president -- this week he said.
If I would if I read that correctly and to my amazement he said that the private sector is doing just fine it's government that needs more money well.
Government you know does not create.
Wealth -- in com in just shuffles it around and it charges -- a price that cost for that.
Service or disservice and let me interrupt for -- -- just.
Because in that news conference on Friday the president said one way to boost the recovery is for congress to pass his jobs act and specifically he asked.
For 35 billion dollars -- to save or create.
Jobs for teachers and first responders I take it you don't think that's a good idea.
I don't -- -- -- tried that to the tune of 800 billion dollars in his so called stimulus bill which is overwhelmingly.
Not the new bridges and roads and infrastructure that some of us thought might be the idea it was overwhelmingly just more money shoveled in the government now.
This is a bit tired and discredited theory.
And but I do think the president sincerely believes it and there I guess is live is a fundamental.
A disagreement that the American people will have to to settle this fall.
Finally we have less than that -- after his victory this week Governor Walker of Wisconsin.
Said that he had some advice for -- Romney he said it is not enough for him to run as simply as the anti Obama this fall -- house to run.
As a reformer -- he went on to -- best.
He meaning Romney has to offer a plan -- house to show a willingness to take on.
The big challenges face in the country I think he can win if he does that.
Is walker -- right does Romney need to offer a bold affirmative agenda.
Yes absolutely for two reasons one is that's the most.
Successful I believe campaign strategy -- the American people I think will rightly.
Demand to know something more than he's not President Obama.
But does secondly he's got the use this -- an opportunity to build a consensus.
Across I hope a broad spectrum of Americans to make the big changes we need to restore -- vibrant private.
That's sector and all the good things that come with -- including more dollars from government so that that's exactly the right advice it would be I think a huge mistake for Republicans to -- Wisconsin has some kind of great harbinger.
I don't see -- -- that way at all I mean there was -- clearly a threat of and enough already vote there that that basically said that this is an abuse of the process all these recalls.
Not even clear that the president governor Romney will be that strong in Wisconsin so he he better have an affirmative constructive message.
And one of hope.
And -- I think that he will and that's why I think ultimately he'll be he'll prevail.
-- -- Daniels we want to thank you so much for coming in today always a pleasure to talk -- --
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