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    Chris Stirewalt and Bret Baier discuss the debate between Obama and Romney over the economy

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Would -- the economy is not doing fine and that's the reason -- -- the press conference.

He says but it more fireman or policeman.

More teachers.

Did he not get the message was jobs and the American people dead as high pressure.

And.

And if and bear with a couple of dueling stumbles are the contenders.

For the presidency.

In November.

President Obama talking about the statement he statement he made earlier in the day Friday saying that the private sector was doing fine.

And Mitt Romney saying that we don't need as many firemen policemen and teachers this is power play I am -- -- well -- Happy Monday to -- Internet it is great to have you back with us and President Obama stumbled on Friday talking about the private economy came out later in the day -- -- that he knows -- kind of he's bad that's why he had a press conference that was kind of stumbling to -- -- to take advantage of it.

Talking about that those same issues in his call for more government cuts and more austerity.

And reducing spending back before stimulus levels that they are now but -- made the big no no for Republicans and mention.

Police officers are.

How is this changing the election does this have legs where would go you know who knows Bret -- He's the anchor special report with Bret -- conveniently enough and welcome back to the big telecast -- -- be -- okay so.

Prior to this point.

The president had been talking about.

Choice election for -- or backward.

You know a new way for America or more of the same bush failed bush policies.

You've been talking about that but on Friday all of a sudden.

Everything sort of came into very clear relief as the president and Romney came forward with absolutely different points of view on this subject the president.

Going again and it should be no surprise that we're going to -- -- stimulus to keep government payrolls up -- stimulus levels to 2009 models and Romney saying time to cut.

Yes and I think that's a battle we're going to happen and what was so interesting is that.

That statement that the private sector is doing just fine you could see how much it affected the entire dynamic.

How fast the Romney campaign and surrogates got out there and how fast -- the Obama White House had to deal with it.

And then right away.

Clarifying statement which actually didn't help clarify.

In fact that's why did the -- the press conference because the economy -- of that imagine as you wrote it George W.

Bush at that.

I think the articles would still be all blowing from the New York Times in the Washington Post as it was.

About that.

I think it's one of those things like the fundamentals of the economy are strong.

From John McCain that that will have resonance beyond this this week.

But.

Mitt Romney and his response to say -- it's what he said about firefighters and teachers.

Kind of blunted.

Any the -- right by President Obama.

And it was almost like you know he -- -- -- shouldn't have come out perhaps hasn't said anything according to the the folks who are jumping all over.

And the rule of thumb this is what Republicans do when your interview with Mitch Daniels.

And all the guys were really good at talking about this issue.

About dealing with public sector employees I mean -- we've got like fifth sixteen million government employees in America.

And while taxpayers may have a lot of beef about a lot of them.

Cops and firefighters.

Are always dressed and well the -- this is a little bit it's a little Fuzzy area air.

Thousand firefighters are -- are very bogeys and four -- do you think this is a problem of lacking.

Fluency in conservative mind.

Possibly you know I mean it's what.

Mitch Daniels we talk about him a lot but he didn't he talks about it pretty well you know and he was off talks -- Sunday this weekend.

And talking about that you know public sector unions in the future of this unions and the fact that the government is sitting on both sides of the table and that.

People are saying listen maybe it's time to stop that.

But he speaks -- from a point of view that the middle class seems to.

Perhaps get.

They did it well and it also helps their case it helps Republicans case now that it in the olden days the government employees have a lot of protections but they didn't make that much money.

Now government wages have gone up faster -- practical -- have gone down as Steven Rattner said on MMS NBC this morning.

The private sector wages are way off and they have collapsed while government employee which.

Have continue to look at Wisconsin I mean that the public sector salaries and benefits vs private sector I mean significant even after Walker's.

Changes they're still 22% above private sector jobs in Wisconsin.

They were 28% so they got back 6% but still we're talking 20% more than private sector.

You know who talks about the best Mitch Daniels Chris Christie.

Those are two governors who.

Really articulate that message very well and and perhaps Mitt Romney you know to Mitch Daniel's point.

Could beef up on on that type of talk.

Well and certainly you look -- on this question style counts for everything walker and we -- Wisconsin together.

And walker had polished up his game pretty significantly.

Governor Scott Walker -- survived -- recall on Tuesday.

It -- of his game pretty significantly when he delivered his speech on Tuesday by the time he got into the meat of it.

He was outlining this NA friend in a friendly not hostile way we started the process though he was a little bit more swashbuckling.

And as Daniels like we again come back to Daniels as he pointed out -- you and yesterday Chris Wallace.

Is the secret is don't frighten people.

Ahead -- this don't be don't be the war drums just let it happen and in Daniel's case almost nobody noticed years went by.

In the -- people who were upset about.

-- small group of public unions -- and that was eight years ago Wright and you know he makes the argument that since that time that.

The service.

Of public government in Indiana has increased dramatically their ability to deliver for taxpayers he's turned it around -- -- government delivering for people who DMV is smoother the everything is your -- deserve better everything yeah.

So.

I do think that this battle.

Will be a battle that -- as well and -- And let the good and that's that's the question is can.

The president pretty clearly we say it's a -- but in Washington -- term Kinsley gaffe Michael Kinsley is famous look fusion which is that we get from Washington.

-- -- a politician accidentally says what he thinks.

And the president doesn't has not been shy about his belief that public sector stimulus is the -- that the way to get out of this stagnation.

It's to juice the public sector some more now that that's coming into relief polls would seem to indicate this is not a good place for the.

President to stand.

Don't think so I mean it's going to be a herculean effort to.

Convince the public that another round of stimulus in this atmosphere when you're looking at Europe when you're looking at what happened.

Over the you know across the pond.

-- -- Spain and Greece and others.

And looking at fifteen trillion dollars debt.

Get away just this little Toby yeah there what do you last year kids -- you invest your grandkids it's a tough rhetorical message today is on -- -- -- you're gonna fire cops.

So.

I want to turn to this just quickly news today.

The house oversight committee Darrell ice.

And -- and it and then the outsiders over there are.

Going to bring forward next week.

A motion to hold attorney general Eric holder's -- in contempt of congress.

This means that you're looking probably -- within a month a vote in the full.

House and whether or not to hold him in contempt.

This is something that many Republicans in leadership -- tried to avoid because they thought that it would be a loser for them that they thought.

Triggering a constitutional crisis.

In the middle of an election year was maybe not a good idea house is gonna play.

Why don't think it plays well the administration and they and the attorney general up on Capitol Hill last week didn't.

Had to do.

The administration's call so it almost.

-- compound things and I think that's what led to this.

You -- this investigation in this effort on contempt to the investigation into the security leaks.

And how serious that is for this administration.

The fact that holder has named to prosecutors but there's still a call for a special prosecutor independent prosecutor.

These things so at least they start small and then they become huge and becomes this casket and I think you're looking at a lot of weeks of -- This and the other thing of course -- they're now -- some Republicans are increasingly.

Rap sheet that fact that holder is working very hard to.

Quash voter ID laws.

In a number of states including.

-- that happened to be a little swing cash flow for the fall and not allowing people purge voter rolls of people that they say -- illegal immigrants or.

Deceased.

And you're right that the Republican that the outrage could overcome the bit.

The tentativeness on this idea I mean attorney general -- something tells me in Florida she will be leading a charge.

How about voter -- and -- the rules of dead people.

And because she.

You know can do it.

The sound you hear our pitchforks.

Being taken out.

The shed Brett -- we thank you very much for making time for us that you as a us a generous colleague okay Internet.

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