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John LeBoutillier, Pat Caddell, and Doug Schoen discuss what this all means for the candidates
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-- and Doug you obviously I think this is a metaphor for the problem.
The Obama administration is facing because we all know the private economy is not private sectors not doing well.
But given the bad job numbers the lack of an agenda.
The fact that the president's poll numbers are stalled out if not dropping.
It could well be as mr.
canal was saying.
The focal point of a dismal June for the president pat I'm curious how you see it in context.
Launching -- that this is that everything is going -- the wheels coming off.
All the help of team bus here and a you know I think that press conferences is -- through this in that.
It was clearly thrown together very last minute.
He was not prepared.
-- -- nobody believed he settled this I have to say I there's another part of Romney's response for furcal -- mistake.
Which was these saying about when he wants to hire more teachers and so what rather than.
-- we -- we didn't see that in the Clement is well and we're one of derided and Ollie wants higher interest in that don't from Wisconsin though Wisconsin mammals evolved over pensions well what is about that -- that you received.
That's the problem mr.
Cabela's once again on to something and on to something profound this is not -- do you like teachers are you against -- It's you how to vote on Tuesday.
The vote on Tuesday was to reduce the size of government.
To reduce pensions to reduce benefits what does Obama do.
He says we need more.
Public employee he's -- its -- public government spending is what we need more government spending.
When voters in the swing state voted against it and -- -- in a swing state that didn't help one.
San Jose Santos city of San Diego in the city -- what would you do with a candidate and a president who made these kind of mistakes what kind of intervention would you do.
Packed up my my intervention I would go into the Oval Office and what would you say tell me that conversation if you continue to on this one you know -- -- Your job you know you'll -- out of the office.
You -- out of this your applicant have a clue in this White House has the standing to go into the Obama -- office and said -- Mr.
President.
-- that's not the question now.
The question is when the White House campaign staff.
Actually can see the reality better than he does not much to others that he did walk it back that afternoon they want to look back out but that's.
There is no clear.
Agenda.
For how we're gonna create jobs there is no clear agenda of where we're going for the future and what I would tell you pat.
One of the things about Bill Clinton that I had arguably say it was unique and it just doesn't involve Doug -- Bill Clinton.
Insisted that you give discordant infamy we'll sort of Jimmy -- that was my job you know it was my job was to come in and -- and -- -- there.
It -- it and I don't think candidates on somebody you know that is not a popular you -- -- popular and that and you don't like right after.
You that you are greeted with from people won't throw flowers that you when you arrive.
But you know we saw what happened to John McCain and -- Gone when he made the statement about it in the context -- state it was buying.
The fundamental this president made clear as Peggy Noonan said the Wall Street Journal.
The -- believe truly that government spending is the most important thing.
It is the way it works like John as a Republican how do you see this and how do you think Romney's him.
While I I think each.
Don't like McConnell did they -- -- -- -- they all jumped on the private sector's doing finding jumped on that capitalized on by a group that went too far on don't put on the teachers in the -- -- -- -- and it.
There's so much as I would -- all I -- I don't think he's ever connected.
But let's let's see the effect of all this politically let's look at poll that's number four this is the fox poll that came out last week before the press conference.
Where Obama and Romney are tied 43 even.
It's change that we never really like those main numbers that had a.
That we thought the winning numbers -- a little too hard but if you take.
Didn't current numbers the April numbers and more importantly the Rasmussen news -- Gallup numbers the all tied to things there.
If it's 4645.
Or 4546.
Obama's own support.
John is now down.
Well below fifty his job approval 4748.
Below fifty put another way what -- -- has said.
Is that the drip drip drip on Obama.
Is happening and it's happening in a way that puts him in a position from being 5050.
To be in my judgment look much more -- This is and this is why I said this is a -- of course month.
We still have health care to go we have many more issues coming down the road -- -- collection another week so we've been saying on Sunday we've been saying on the show.
That the reelection for months.
It -- as it is much.
-- headquartered in.
Europe is -- is in Chicago.
We're gonna see that -- collections and in this continual bail.
I I think the president's got a rough but and I just think we'll throw up I don't think they seem to know there is a -- and this goes to the numbers we're seeing here.
Look if he gets his job rating comes down a few more points to the mid forty.
Then historically but if this happens by the end of the month of July historically an 80% chance to lose -- -- I've been saying -- for two weeks this is Romney's election to lose now but he is something that help women which is stuff while you're not doing that that's what we're been very critical that you know I equated to that's what say you are going into a job interview.
With your potential -- Do you sit there and spend the whole interview trashing the guy you're replacing.
Or do you go and say mr.
boss.
If you hire me here's what I'm gonna do for you I'm gonna do this and this and I'll try to do that.
This is -- good interview award here interviewing for president when you're running for pro business.
-- tell you I think -- capital -- problem spike and everyone wants decline.
Or Romney still is not articulate what it is people who was president -- And the problem with being capitalist will -- what's countries looking for is take the -- of business executive who's got ideas about doing things.
Not somebody who is a Wall Street money guys -- he needs to make the transition.
To say look I've really could see the future I can help the -- these businesses there is no narrative to this man other than what you're saying are gone now which is.
I'm not the other -- around Obama worked by let's let's let's get going on -- we we saw the poll we I don't know if we had the electoral map we can talk about it.
Because it's been changing and and Obama is coming down in the Electoral College corner real clear politics as he is in the national polls -- ten to 21 -- one.
Because Wisconsin and Michigan have moved from leading Obama two -- decided we can put number 7UP.
This was a shock last week the Michigan.
New poll from ethic and mare numbers seventh coming up there ago Romney for the first time all year has moved ahead of all bombing in any -- in Michigan them.
When -- say a couple things about that first.
If the real clear average -- 221 to 170 my memory is correct correct.
You have Florida.
With a -- some polls have Mitt Romney ahead.
U of Ohio where the most recent polls have Mitt Romney ahead.
You have Missouri which is categorized.
As a swing state it isn't it's a Mitt Romney's state.
And you of North Carolina which I think is still -- swing state.
Characterize.
What which I think should be characterized as Mitt Romney put.
Ohio.
Florida Missouri.
And -- -- what we're going to usually what you can't lose it's a natural states that those states.
With out Michigan.
Would bring Romney up around 235 to 240.
And very very quickly you can see we're in a tight contest I want to make one other point which is.
I see how Romney gets to 240 year to fifty.
But Pat's point is when we have to keep in mind Obama has to come down a couple more points for the 240 or two to fifty to become 29 units we've.
Well -- less -- -- one thing happens if the thing blows -- that's through and then you go plans slot because they're all moved together.
Then but -- these these these the what's out there is -- you still have to -- Michigan and Wisconsin.
I don't care there's they're that there are undecided or whatever the -- there's still.
The states I expect to be -- -- I do to pat but if those states are in play in golf.
-- -- like don't know yet and that's why there aren't like my.
