Giuliani: 'People will be killed as a result of this'
Former New York City mayor on intel leak probe
- Duration 9:14
- Date Jun 12, 2012
Former New York City mayor on intel leak probe
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And today Democrats blocked a resolution calling for the appointment of a special counsel to investigate the White House leak scandal now the measure was struck down by left wing senator Ron Wyden.
Who objected to the motion just moments after Senator John McCain had this to say let's take a look.
Here we are.
Breach of national security in the view of some of the most serious in recent history.
And he clearly cries out for the appointment of -- special.
This one of the highest breaches of security.
That this country has ever seen.
That was Senator McCain delivered that speech attorney general Eric called holder was also on Capitol Hill and he was being grilled by members of the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Namely over his refusal to allow an independent prosecutor to oversee the investigation.
Now holder claims his decision to tap to US attorneys is sufficient enough.
But as Texas senator John -- and explain to mr.
holder at least one of those attorneys happens to be a big fan of well president Obama's.
How his name is Ronald mansion and well wouldn't you know what he was originally hired by Eric Holder waved back in 1997.
What it surprised.
You to know that he is of political contributor to pres Obama's campaign and do you serve as a volunteer.
-- Obama for America and assisted in the betting.
Both potential price -- vice presidential candidates.
I am confident that he has the ability the capacity to investigate this case in a nonpartisan.
Independent thorough and aggressive way.
Why would suggest that.
Question that that raises by your -- -- whether you have the independence and ability to conduct an investigation.
-- don't mean to discuss the cloud that is -- -- in the presidency is the former mayor of New York City he is also a former US attorney for the southern district of New York the one and only.
Rudy Giuliani how he -- -- It what this whole series suddenly funny.
It yet it is it is very very serious I think it's more serious and people realize I mean these leaks were massive.
This is not a leak of a poor little piece of information and -- blues leak of an entire pro pro program.
Of attempting to interrupt the a rainy and Iranian nuclear surge which there in involved then it's the leak of how we how we found -- -- -- -- sitting in prison.
For 33 years.
As a result of the leaks from -- -- administration.
And I think -- I think President Obama is playing a word game with us you know.
What does this mean.
He's telling us the -- don't come from the White House.
But when you read the articles.
The article -- where the weeks come from that says it that I administration officials and -- in the my administration officials over there one of them I think.
Talks about something like 22.
-- administration officials who spoke to -- reporter.
And maybe maybe -- in the State Department may be there in the CIA may be -- these are our Obama administration.
People what's his administration that's responsible for the men being in jail for 33 as.
Should be expressing.
Curricula concerned about that President Obama should be really feel terrible about it it even if he didn't do it if -- -- order.
But -- somewhere below him some man is now in jail because of people -- -- administration.
Our -- so desires of making the to a superhero.
Which is what this is all about the system you know Obama -- Obama and -- -- try the try to -- -- into super hero you know he.
He got a warm into the he got -- -- to the computer of the Iranians.
He snatched bin Laden he's got to kill list and only he makes -- decision kill this one kill that one kill this one.
This is outrageous this is highly classified information.
This is information that puts the lives of people in jeopardy.
People going to be killed as a result of this one is in jail already another man is a great -- jeopardy over this -- had to do business with us.
An intense investigation.
By special prosecutor when I was associate attorney general the United States in the early part of the Reagan administration it was my job to oversee.
The independent counsel statute I recommended.
A special prosecutor twice -- recommended against special prosecutor once pretty -- insufficient.
And then when I was US attorney I requested the appointment of the special prosecutor in every case these -- people that were in my administration people had great respect for.
In some cases I didn't think it.
They didn't do what they said what -- that was alleged about them but I knew that the way this works is you can't have.
The president and the president's people investigating themselves but look at what they're investigating themselves get -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- but can't win this on Bush Doctrine that they've.
Do that in my I don't need an -- probably but this is then they're -- it nobody else is leading it but then it's a joke to suggest.
-- anyone else.
Peter King says -- force -- Watergate John corner wants Eric Holder were to resign over this.
You're pointing out something that I think is the key to all of that switch is that for whoever got that bug into that computer system -- the Iranian nuclear site.
They are probably dead.
They will -- if they got to get lost.
Yes OK we got a feeling of Iran is a slaughtering people have you know left and right right now -- -- sort of -- people this would remain MEK this slaughtering people from all these groups -- they feel or threat to them.
That this other guys in jail for 33 year 33 year sentence.
-- in in in Pakistan because he helped us this is outrageous.
And the reality is.
It in a -- in a criminal investigation.
I did many hundreds.
It always begins with do you follow the motive.
Who has a motive to leak this what's the motivation initially to make the president will make the president look like.
Find tough to insulate him against Republican attacks -- being weak on national security to being weak on terrorism.
So it is that you would have to be an idiot not to realize where this -- couple of things should holder resign as cornyn says.
Should it is this worse than Watergate has PK excess -- hiddink is it worse than Watergate we'll find out.
It could it could be worse than Watergate because it involves.
Very very sensitive.
-- -- commission.
About which people could be could be killed and that that may be worse than -- worse than Watergate in terms of -- the taking of human life.
I don't careful -- resigns or not what I care about is an independent counsel should be appointed.
They truly independent counsel that does not report to the attorney general that reports to a court.
Because how can he possibly be reporting to attorney general holder.
Attorney general holder may have had some information about this she may have been he may know about this he -- -- -- -- say he's a subject Tora Bora Bora.
Or an -- -- focuses nobody may be and his boss might be we don't know how high up it went to kill list article.
Sounds like it came right out of the White House had to it was it was only so many people inside that room.
When the president was decide how they thought they are -- that Telus and they've got -- times -- times report is lying when they say it is coming from high administration officials.
Hi Obama administering Iraq now official with direct knowledge and -- tremendous motivation to do it.
All right last question when you think of how the issue of Valerie -- knew she wasn't even a Covert operative.
We know -- the leaker was Richard Armitage from the very beginning when you compare for example Joseph Biden.
And Barack Obama and the Democrats -- one -- a special prosecutor appointed there.
How how much -- How much worse is this how worse is -- -- to Valerie Plame case was only get a it was like a traffic ticket.
In comparison to that it's.
It back but only plan.
Was a covered person in the meaning of the statue she had she didn't she'd been out -- any kind of Covert where did she ever did for more than five years it's a five year limit.
As -- -- alleged to be an investigation they knew who the leaker was Armitage right it wasn't it wasn't Scooter Libby.
It became a new national scandal got -- -- a hundred articles about it and the re and the reality is if you ever need a demonstration.
-- how unbelievably unfair of the coverages to to a Republican.
As opposed to Democrats this is a great example of it.
And much more is at stake here the barrel -- plant and the cases and cases and a case -- plant's safety allegedly was in jeopardy you really wasn't that allegedly.
Here the safety of hundreds of people.
Are in jeopardy how would you know people have already been put in jail as a result of the 33 gross negligence but here you can come this -- -- -- sure.
Now there's a man sitting in jail for 33 years based on the gross negligence of the Obama administration keeping secrets.
Pretty frightening -- who's gonna wanna who's who's gonna wanna.
Trust us in the future Israel -- trust us we'll Covert operative would want to we want -- -- -- Italy where somewhere where -- Wear plastic worms in the Iranian computers with Israel and they're gonna -- -- -- you how would you -- film -- -- with a guy that took the -- to do that.
If I have a -- that's -- -- should I be so angry right now.
Or if I was sitting in the Israeli government right now I'm just so little confidence in the United States I mean I would I would be was frightened I'd be outraged we're gonna continue to follow the scandalous -- always good to see -- thank you thank issued a.