Investigation of security leaks gaining traction
All-Star panel weighs in
- Duration 5:50
- Date Jun 13, 2012
All-Star panel weighs in
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We're talking about putting people's lives at risk -- Pakistan -- Doctor we're talking about the double agents families being involved.
We're talking about compromising programs -- allies like Israel we're talking about every detail of the bin Laden raid seal team six and their families.
Yes this is exponentially worse there is no way in home.
On God's green earth you got to convince me.
That this scenario doesn't justify special counsel when everybody on the democratic side say 1881 for Valerie Plame and Jack Abramoff.
We're not gonna let this go.
We don't believe that's necessary this administration takes the leaking of classified and sensitive information very seriously.
-- investigation into the leaking of national security information to several media reports continues.
And it is intensifying on Capitol Hill with calls for special prosecutor and the administration.
Is pushing back on that we're back with the panel.
Where does this go it seems like it's starting small but she may be gaining some momentum is that read of this.
Well clearly Republicans fields -- good issue for them you just saw Lindsey Graham he really chewed out Eric Holder.
On the hill and made it plain terror holder I didn't think this was good enough.
Where it goes legally I'm not sure I mean I'm I'm may disappoint some people but I'm not sure any laws were actually broken here in the Valerie Plame case remember -- -- -- very specific matter of outing and intelligence -- which is a specific violation of law.
There's a murkier legal situation here whether this information was even classified or was declassified before was -- to whatever.
What's at issue here -- the president's direction.
But which is an issue here it seems to me clearly if anything.
Thing and I emphasize if it is the political manipulation.
Of classified information I'm not sure that's a crime.
It might be wrong thing to do but I'm not sure that's it.
Crime go from there is a Republican element to it and you say it's a good issue for them but -- you do have Dianne Feinstein and done.
A congressman -- -- saying that they are very concerned about it as well which is one of the reasons I think this is.
Something that were it's more than just your average sort of I'm controversy in Washington this is going to last more than a week it already has this is going to go on throughout the summer into the fall and the White House is.
I don't expect the White House spokesman to say anything else from the podium.
That today don't think there's special.
The -- necessary of course they're going to set us up I don't think we have enough of the answers to these questions yet if this how serious this is the question is is this going to be an issue.
In need campaign or not I'd be a little bit surprised if it was because these things move very very very slowly but it's of the utmost.
It's serious nature here obviously but is -- -- point do you think that the pressure builds that in fact the special prosecutor.
Does -- -- a minute can you foresee it judging by the -- the environment is now well it's certainly possible and I can't I think human partner recently and it's it is an election year even if it was not and it's very combustible it's very hot so sure I could see that happening.
Who knows if it will make sure that could happen.
-- I think that all depends on how well it's -- by the Department of Justice.
Holder points two attorneys who were -- to him Obama pointed.
Question their integrity perhaps they will be able to conduct.
Independent inquiries into this there will be successful.
But what is does do is it insulates the administration they will answer to assume that you get congress looking at it as a way to do a separate investigation.
I can assure you everybody who goes.
Before congress will say I cannot comment on a question that's already under.
Justice Department in court.
So it -- allow them and out that's what always happens.
I think what this will hinge on whether becomes a political issue because everybody agrees on the seriousness citizen only -- Graham Hussein.
It's a real terrible hit him injury to our national security.
And to actually American lives and Dianne Feinstein has said it threatens American lives.
And national security and -- poisons our relations with allies and -- made makes it almost impossible that that we can recruit.
Anybody who work with us after looking at how we -- stuff but the question is a bit of the -- doubt -- the series is the question is he's -- -- pressure.
To speed up the investigation because if you go really slow.
Inside justice until after election -- which is what Obama wants to do with everything is -- everything into November.
You know -- you said this might not an even involve classified information -- mean.
We're talking about a program that people didn't know the US and Israel was working on going after Iran by -- computer weapon.
No what I'm saying is it's possible that some of it was declassified.
My poor president invited by the present or somebody else before was -- we don't know that I assume they're going to be investigating those kinds of things.
Just to be clear here a repeat there's a difference between something that's bad.
Risky dangerous etc.
and something that's up crime.
Right and that's I -- in the trap that you fall into with these independent counsel the special counsel everything.
-- you get an investigation of you know who broke what you know federal statute.
And then the answer learn things about perjury effect comes up and so forth.
And the appropriate inquiries seems to me is one like you know.
Who ordered this bad stuff to be done -- it happened the first place which isn't necessarily criminal inquiry Charles is congress could do that.
That would be a good role for congress but they've already gotten they've already played the special counsel card.
-- -- stop any.
Anybody from giving evidence.
That will be new in before congress because they will say I can't speak about an ongoing investigation.
It's insulation from.